Best way to Counter Shyvana

[quote=utopus][quote=SOAC Bas] Zed/Teemo/Vlad/Swain/Renekton/Irelia/Mundo are all good picks against her. If you can get your jungle to gank 2 or 3 times before she gets gear you could roll Darius against her. If you can pick up a few kills then awesome. [/quote] How does vlad counter shyvana? I mean sure, you can kite her well, but won't her twin bite will take out like 40% of your HP?[/quote]

[quote=drakon136]Because Vlad has decent poke, nice sustain, and can trollpool away effortlessly.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]Ranged champions can generally do well against her. I think [[Dr. Mundo]] does well, he can permakit with cleavers. Vlad is probably a good pick. [[Renekton]] is always a good pick. [[Aatrox]] might be a decent pick too. I really don't understand [[Zed]] against Shyv. I think Zed is really good against Mundo, but I think shyv would destroy him. I've also seen [[Lissandra]] do well against Shyv because she can pretty much permakite her. [quote=utopus] How does vlad counter shyvana? I mean sure, you can kite her well, but won't her twin bite will take out like 40% of your HP? [/quote] what vladimir's are you playign with? Or better yet, what is your shyvanna build in which you take 40% of a vlad's health with one Q[/quote]

[quote=SOAC Bas][quote=Mooninites] I really don't understand [[Zed]] against Shyv. I think Zed is really good against Mundo, but I think shyv would destroy him. [/quote] A good zed will move in quickly last hit and play it safe until level 3-4 then he will use his shadow to help last hit. Once you get some lifesteal and your first boots you won't be in lane much. You will push the lane a bit swap out with your jungler roam, and pick up a kill on mid or bot lane then return back to top lane. You essentially rotate who is up top to keep shyv from pushing your lanes while adding pressure to the other lanes.[/quote]

[quote=SOAC Bas][quote=utopus] [quote=SOAC Bas] Zed/Teemo/Vlad/Swain/Renekton/Irelia/Mundo are all good picks against her. If you can get your jungle to gank 2 or 3 times before she gets gear you could roll Darius against her. If you can pick up a few kills then awesome. [/quote] How does vlad counter shyvana? I mean sure, you can kite her well, but won't her twin bite will take out like 40% of your HP? [/quote] This right here - [quote=drakon136] Because Vlad has decent poke, nice sustain, and can trollpool away effortlessly. [/quote] To put it simply you poke with Q/E when she pushes close you W away. You should never be close enough to get hit with Twin Bite. she will go MRez initially while you will go Liandry's/revolver. By lvl 9 or 10 she will be tanky as snot, and you will have Liandry's/Boots/revolver. You can now hurt her then you go into Rylai's, and she becomes a slow moving slowly dying dragon.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]In lane I play [[Darius]] against her, he generally wins that matchup.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=SOAC Bas] [quote=Mooninites] I really don't understand [[Zed]] against Shyv. I think Zed is really good against Mundo, but I think shyv would destroy him. [/quote] A good zed will move in quickly last hit and play it safe until level 3-4 then he will use his shadow to help last hit. Once you get some lifesteal and your first boots you won't be in lane much. You will push the lane a bit swap out with your jungler roam, and pick up a kill on mid or bot lane then return back to top lane. You essentially rotate who is up top to keep shyv from pushing your lanes while adding pressure to the other lanes. [/quote] This is a completely hypothetical scenario that's pretty farfetched to begin with. Are you trying to say [[Zed]] is a strong match-up to shyvanna when he doesn't have to lane against her?[/quote]

[quote=Ubnoxius]Just play [icon=teemo]shitmo and shit all over her face[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]I was going to say "rush [[Randuin's omen]] and skip that shitty [[Sunfire Cape]]", but i see you meant champions...[/quote]

[quote=SOAC Bas][quote=Mooninites] This is a completely hypothetical scenario that's pretty farfetched to begin with. Are you trying to say [[Zed]] is a strong match-up to shyvanna when he doesn't have to lane against her? [/quote] I believe you misunderstand the meaning of far fetched. Far fetched means hard to believe and borderline ludicrous. Are you saying that zed pushing a lane then roaming for kills is hard to believe? Or is it saying that zed shouldn't try to force a trade against a champ that will be tough to kill either way? I am saying that zed is a champ who can poke and get farm on shyvana and then leave to go roam rather than staying in lane. Zed is not an easier champion than the others, but if you have to pick a champ that cane ffectively push a lane and then leave to go make an impact on the game then Zed is perfectly fine. Once he gets gear he can clear really fast, prevent Shyvana from taking a turret, and still roam and make an impact. He can trade with the jungler giving effective ganks and allowing the jungler to pick up some farm. How is this far-fetched?[/quote]