NA Inhouses - What's the problem?

[quote=Emi]Usually, I forget to press Ctrl before talking, so my entire thought process just sorta cuts off when I realize that no one heard me and that I was just talking to myself. By that point, I just don't bother saying anything because it's already too late. For example, if I see a gank incoming, I automatically yell to get back. Buuut since usually it's in that split second, by the time I realize that no one heard me, we're either dead or fighting.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]In my opinion we should use a different voice chat program because Ventrilo like Skype or Curse Voice or Teamspeak or whatever Also there's kind of a lack of interest, I mean like we're usually the same five or so people and the rest are either random people or new people from Mobachat[/quote]

[quote=Bryun][quote=utopus] It's not even the signup that's really the problem. I think it's people's attitude in ventrilo that really gets to me. For instance, I was late to the first inhouse game, and had joined one of the team chat rooms, to ask someone whether there would be room for me when the game finished, and nobody responded. The ventrilo chat rooms themselves were pretty quiet too. I think NA inhouses would do better if people talked more on vent. If the chat is silent, then I'd feel more inclined to just play a ranked game, or normals with friends with whom i can skype (and actually have a conversation with) instead of the inhouse games. Thoughts? [/quote] Sorry, by the time I saw your message you were offline. I don't recall you being on vent tho. I think the problem is getting people to [b]log on vent[/b]. There's many problems with the inhouses, mainly the community at fault. Beginning, there isn't enough members anymore. Mobafire was [i]really popular[/i] back in the day where the chat was active and always had a constant showing of 50 members on the list; now there's about 20-25 members and no one even talks anymore. That fact alone made it waaay easier to have inhouses because people [b]wanted to play because it was fun[/b] and everyone [b]was around the same skill level[/b]. No offense to Wrath of Suffix, but it was so easy to host inhouses back then because everyone wanted to play that there was enough for three inhouses, hell, even I remember some people not being able to play because there wasn't enough for a fourth. Back then, the balancing was easy because everyone was newer to the game and even then Wrath liked to stack people who he thought were good on his team, while Suffix would always invite his ranked friends and want to team up with them. Forgive me, but I was honestly tired of the members who kept bringing up shit about the old inhouses when there was literally the same problem back then, but it that it was intentional and the only reason people liked the old inhouses was because everyone knew each other. TO be frank, It was honestly a shit show being ridiculed/compared to the old inhouses, so the disrespect also turned me off from hosting anymore/finals week leaving it to Keanu to host hoping he'd do a better job. Ranting aside, I think that: [list] [*] Inhouses should be advertised more (Also, explain what inhouses even are) [*] Make it known signing up gives you a chance to win Riot Points [*] Have a dedicated caster and stream it [*] Make it known we have a Mobafire chatroom [*] Stop blaming hosts for things they can't control [*] Make communication a priority (I personally like click to talk) [*] Change the day & time (Maybe to a Friday during the evening 6 or 7ish) [*] Have a dedicated forum for inhouses. [*] Have a after-match discussion that can give members tips on a certain champion/what they're doing wrong or what they did well. [*] Have the Admins help out with the promotion of inhouses. (I mean it's beneficial to have a solid community and this would help out). [*] [b]To have fucking fun.[/b] [/list] @Moon Awe, thanks buddy. I tried really hard. :,) EDIT: So I was surveying people in the mobafire chatrooms to find what was wrong and what I found was that... [list] [*] They aren't active within the community. [*] They weren't aware Inhouses were even scheduled. [*] The ones I surveyed didn't care about the raffle really, but it was a bonus. [*] They enjoyed the voice chat. [*] They found the chatroom through a friend, and not the website. [*] To scared to play versus higher tier players. [/list] I think we need to tell the new members that it's for fun and mainly to [b]learn[/b] the game better. Here's someone I surveyed. :p [center][img=http://imgur.com/CfEDZue.png][/center][/quote]

[quote=1jamie50]Personally, I only play League when I have friends online to play with now because I only seem to have fun when I'm playing with friends. That and the fact that I'm no longer active in the MOBAFire community stops me from doing any inhouses now adays. I used to have interest in the inhouses a long time ago, but that was back when my laptop still overheated and wouldn't have been able to sustain both voice chat and League at the same time.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]tbh byrun is a good host, its the times when other people tried to host when he couldnt that we had bad hosts balancing should be more of a group thing rather than having just the host do it, there have been times when some people have asked to help with balance/wanted to play against a certain person only to be on the same team, plus most of the people would rather get right into the game instead of worrying about balance causing the chat to be spammed with "start" and "balance is fine just start the game" and stuff like that and i dont know if this has come up recently and i know we dont have enough people doing inhouses as it is but there needs to be someone enforcing the rules, a lot of games end up with people yelling/flaming/raging at others or someone trolling or having a negative attitude, only to have them in the next game right after to have the same exact thing happen, not sure if im remembering this right but werent you not allowed to play the rest of the inhouses if you ended up doing things like that? i know we have so few people that if we kicked those people out we might not even have enough to play another game but id rather not play a game than play another game with the same person doing the same things[/quote]

[quote=Nebrasketball]The biggest issue since I've been here is that we lost multiple members who played nearly every week. We lost barb, mowen, byakuya, aya, and matadava. You go from trying to find 2-3 friends to 5-6 and it becomes a long, boring process. People then are quiet in chat because you dont know anyone and are inviting random with vent. I'm a shy motherfucker, I'm not going to facilitate a social event. Balancing is easy as long as I've played with the person, but you're obviously going to have stomps. As far as lower level players getting picked on, grow up. I got my ass kicked by PsiGuard and I learned more from that than if he would have played at 25% to take it easy on me. You shouldn't coddle bad habits. If you're over extending in lane or reaching for cs you should get punished and I would want the same against me.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Well, letting bad habits slide isn't necessarily what it's about. I just hate being in stompy games. Even when learning from it, being demolished isn't fun, especially when the game becomes very 1 sided off a single lane, very fast in these games. Telling people to grow up for a natural reaction isn't very fair, imo. No matter what way you slice it, or play it off as people needing thicker skin, 20 minute or less games that are determined by the first 10 minutes are no fun for either team, regardless of any learning involved.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=OTGBionicArm] I just hate being in stompy games. Even when learning from it, being demolished isn't fun, especially when the game becomes very 1 sided off a single lane, very fast in these games. Telling people to grow up for a natural reaction isn't very fair, imo. No matter what way you slice it, or play it off as people needing thicker skin, 20 minute or less games that are determined by the first 10 minutes are no fun for either team, regardless of any learning involved. [/quote] Agreed, despite what Bryun posted earlier, you can blame the host. I honestly, can't remember the guys name and don't want to start a witch hunt, but whoever was hosting the inhouses months ago, maybe a year ago did a terrible job balancing, it was a shit show every week and we lost a lot of people because of it. So i understand where elite and nebrasketball are coming from, it's pretty much impossible to balance when you barely scrape 10 people for inhouses, but at the same time it's kind of necessary to ensure people are having fun[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Nebrasketball] As far as lower level players getting picked on, grow up. I got my ass kicked by PsiGuard and I learned more from that than if he would have played at 25% to take it easy on me. You shouldn't coddle bad habits. If you're over extending in lane or reaching for cs you should get punished and I would want the same against me. [/quote] theres being punished for a mistake and then theres "im only going to camp top lane because x is in that lane" i put quotation marks around that because it was something that was actually said more than once during a few inhouses, the game right after even had the same player saying "im just going to camp x's lane again because it was so easy to get fed off of him" only to have x go "what?" because he was on our team that game yes i get that lower elo players should be punished and learn from their mistakes but when the higher elo players make a point to go after them because they know itll be easy kills and an easy win thats just not fun at all and leads to those stomp games that end in under 20 minutes because the plat jungler and diamond top laner are both 5/0 10 minutes into the game and the bronze top laner is 0/10[/quote]

[quote=Kazega]once in an Inhouse I was saying "I need to work on my top lane right now" so I went top and much to my dismay, I had matched myself against TehAsian. I got stomped. strike that, I got Roflstomped. I didn't play as I normally would have played. I wasn't sure if I was making the right moves, let alone CSing because I knew that the Diamond player would be all over my ass and I wouldn't know what to do about it. He free farmed as Jax, or maybe I was jax.. it was a while ago shut up... Either way, all I could do was stand there and try to soak up spare XP while Asian froze the lane and last hit his way to an obscene gold lead. I learned nothing that game, because I didn't do anything except be a scared bitch because of the massive mismatch I put myself in. And what's worse, because of my complex,I felt like I was a huge drag on the team and I was internally tearing myself apart because of it.[/quote]