Need help with my guide to improve it even...

[quote=FreestyleZer0]Ok, my guide is in my signature, now i would like to get some information on topics i should add besides the ones i already have that would improve both reading and the helpfullness of the guide. Also if you think something has to be altered in the build as it is to much text, icons or repetitions of certain subjects tell me what, where and why. This is my very first build so i want this to be as usefull as possible. I am already checking other builds to get some idea's but any information from people with an explanation would help me more ofcourse :). Is my reasoning on the summoner spells valid or is it completely flawed and does it require a rework? Also, what do you think about the defensive items i placed as a requirement (1 of the 2 is required depending on the situation)? Thanks for the help so far to: Jebus McAzn, Mowen & CBandicoot *note, i still will not change flash to ghost though Jebus XD it is listed in optional but i do think flash to be a bit more usefull for this specific build/gameplay of irelia*[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Why didn't you just bump your old post?[/quote]

[quote=FreestyleZer0]It was to confirm whether the build had any validity of being close to a decent build and what it could use to make it decent, though the thread name was not really self explanatory. This is to improve it, and a clean start seemed more usefull with a better explanatory name.[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]In the Skilling Order section I feel like the numbers past 6 are unnecessary, they can look at the top of your build for that. In the items section I would make the icons for the main items bigger and keep the in-text icons small. How to do this... ((icon=Irelia size=35)) for example replace the ('s with ['s I think the order you put the chapters in doesn't really make sense. Personally I would put the order as such... 1. Version 2. Intro 3. Pros/Cons 4. Skill Order 5. Laning 6. Skill Sequence (I would call this How to Use your Skills Effectively) 7. Items 8. Runes 9. Masteries 10. Summoners 11. Conclusion The reason for this order is I feel like the explanation of gameplay (4,5,6) is going to be more vital for a person learning Irelia to know than the other things. I person just learning a champ isn't going to experiment with different summoners/runes/masteries until they have played one or a few games with the champ. At that point then they can read your guide further to the more "optional" parts of the guide so far as trying new items / runes / masteries.[/quote]

[quote=FreestyleZer0]@ mowen. Thank for the feedback, i changed the order, though a bit different as i think skill sequence is more important than laning as she is supposed to lane solo with the build, also placed summoner spells somewhat higher to as they can make or break a build in my opinion. About the skilling order section, yeah now that i took a look at it, kind of stupid of me, thanks for that one :). Remaining questions: - Is my reasoning on the summoner spells valid or is it completely flawed and does it require a rework? (if it is flawed, tell me why please) - What do you think about the defensive items i placed as a requirement (1 of the 2 is required depending on the situation)? - What do you think about the text, to wallish or not? And what about the icons, does it more or less?[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]The text is not wallish but I'd still like it if you changed the icons like I mentioned. The summoner spells I PERSONALLY prefer ghost, but, flash makes sense too. Like you put I would leave it up to the person but not talk down about ghost. I wouldn't even suggest taking clairvoyance/clarity, I feel like they're not worthwhile on irelia. The other ones you suggest are much better. The defensive items are good.[/quote]

[quote=FreestyleZer0]Ok thanks, i'll change the icons, i think i will remove clairvoyance, although with clarity i have had good experience seeing as she is mana burning and with an mana needy group it is very usefull. Instead i will edit the clarity to state it is only for mana needy team use. *OUCH, recieved my first downvote after finally getting my first 2 up votes. Guess that happens haha.*[/quote]

[quote=FreestyleZer0]Ok, i revamped some chapters, removed some text, etc etc, what are ur thoughts on it now, what am i missing and what needs further improvement?[/quote]