Luther3000 wrote:
A champion doesn't have to be OP or even viable for their kit to be inherently toxic. There are plenty of champions who are terrible right now but would be incredibly annoying to play against if they were ever buffed and/or the meta changed to favour them, something that has happened many times in the past. Tristana is just the latest example.
give examples

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I actually think new
Nidalee is more toxic than old AP Nid, because she's FAR more oppressive in lane. I also consider any hyper carry besides
Vayne (She's hard to play, arguably the weakest early game and even whens hes strong you still have to be super careful) to be toxic, as most of them are generally easy to play, and can cheese soloq really hard simply by surviving 30 minutes.


I think new Nidalee is still somewhat toxic but anything's an improvement on the ******** half+ health spear spam. Hypercarries other than Trist are all vulnerable to getting zerged or easily caught if they aren't positioned well, so idk about that one.
Luther3000 wrote:
I think new Nidalee is still somewhat toxic but anything's an improvement on the ******** half+ health spear spam.
I'll take the chance spears over a near guaranteed all in death at level 2-3. Her new cat Q combined with the hunted mechanics are ****ing ********.
Problem with old nida was that she was super low risk and high reward. She didn't have to put herself in any risk to throw spears while new nidalee actually needs to take some risks. Regardless of that her numbers need to be tweaked (slightly) but at least the no-counterplay aspect got dealt with.
I remember pre nerf eve :D
Get DFG+Ulted to 20% hp before you even see her, then she uses w and just kindly walks up to you and stabs you in the back, or just ignites and /L 's while you die
I think current nida is okay...ish. As long as you avoid getting hunted you should be able to lower her kill pressure drastically xD
Then again stepping on a trap/getting hit by a spear does usually mean you'll die sooooo.... yeeeeeeeah
Get DFG+Ulted to 20% hp before you even see her, then she uses w and just kindly walks up to you and stabs you in the back, or just ignites and /L 's while you die
I think current nida is okay...ish. As long as you avoid getting hunted you should be able to lower her kill pressure drastically xD
Then again stepping on a trap/getting hit by a spear does usually mean you'll die sooooo.... yeeeeeeeah

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I dunno. I had a ton of fun anyway so idc really
He removed me now tho