Shyvana Build Guide : [6.24] The Dragon Nears - S7 Shyvana Guide

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I am currently in the process of updating this guide, click the "view revision" tab to take a look.

Thank you!

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Readers don't get to see the view revision tab, only the author does.

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Oh damn :( thanks for the heads up.

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Update this guide for Patch 7.9 please

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"If you have Titanic Hydra, then pop the active last, as it is an auto reset."

I guess this is not true, because Hydra gives your Q an extra 60-75 on-hit dmg even on your main target.

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What exactly isn't true there? the active is popped last, the passive dmg your mentioning is always active. O.O

E>auto>Q>TH is common and works. (If your using titanic at the same time you're Q is active however, that isn't the right combo)

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There's nothing inherently wrong with popping Q and Hydra at the same time. What you end up missing is just the auto attack damage, which isn't much due to no AD stacking. Or crit. It's faster, if you happen to think you can't wait that half a second to activate Hydra last.

It's a burst combo, and you may have to adjust just how much burst you're putting out. Not every situation will be the same.

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Sorry, I did not explain well and caused confusion due to the wrong numbers.

The passive increase on hydra is "40 (+ 2.5% maximum health)", while active it is "40 (+ 10% maximum health)". That is quite a huge difference. Surely the combo should be E, AA, Hydra, AA, Q. When you pop W should depend on when you need the MS.

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That... is actually a much better combo. With enough attack speed, you should be able to pull it off fairly quick (thinking of the extra auto attack), hopefully fast enough before your target gets away. The combo I have mentioned is based off the fact that your target may use their escape or cc.

While W is definitely good for movespeed, it makes up a large chunk of your early to mid game damage. So it should depend more on who you're fighting.

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So guess who heard about Shyvana becoming unstoppable and just had to find time for League again?? Also Winter Rift. I'll be updating this guide soon, with my thoughts on her potential rework. Good luck to everyone!

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The changes do look pretty awesome. Not a fan of her new Passive though.

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I can agree about her passive, it's weaker than what she has now, and will be frustrating in a game where she's not able to get dragons. Five armor and magic resist as a "base" is ridiculously small, and might as well be nonexistent. I am kind of hoping they'll listen to the players and just restore her current/old passive for now (instead of how they blatantly ignored the Quinn players, still hurts).

Get on those forums and be vocal guys. It's our only chance.

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It's not so much the strength of the Passive, but rather the concept and the idea of how it works. Abilities/Passives should not be tailored to something like objective kills IMO, it's an unhealthy mechanic to have in a game. It's inconsistent and unreliable, and on one hand has the potential to be very strong, and on the other hand it can be completely useless.

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I was trying to say that, but maybe I wasn't quite clear. I don't like the RNG aspect of it either. Some games are going to see us with no dragons whatsoever and basically no passive, and other games you're going to have 5 dragons, which means a total of 30 resistances (the stacks plus base), which is strong.

I would definitely prefer something more consistent and reliable, something I can depend on.

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http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/bZmpu7c0-shyvana-rework-on-pbe-feedback

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Good work on giving such an in-depth analysis about the rework. I do agree with most it, though I'm more hesitant to condemn her new Dragon Form E, mostly because I haven't tried it out yet.

For Burnout, I am definitely sad to see the trail leave, because not only was it great in terms of theme, but gameplay as well. I know I'm one of the people who will pop ult while fighting the big objectives (pretty sure I even mention it as a tip in my guide). It's huge in teamfights, and hilarious if a carry tries chasing. They always seem to underestimate the damage.

One thing you didn't mention in your write-up was how her new "passive" affects a CDR build (understandable, I do acknowledge that CDR Dragon is a niche build, and not the type you use). It could hurt my playstyle a lot. Shyvana has no mana, which means a lot of the CDR items are useless for her. And if they're going to remove the free resistances, that means I must get them from runes instead. And it'll probably force me to go Trinity Force all the time, whereas right now I do have options.

At least her ult is unstoppable. Don't get me wrong, I am beyond excited for that change and can't wait to ruin some Vayne's day, but I am watching them carefully.

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I owe you! i did your build and tweeked it in my own way, by getting frozen mallet and rageblade and then I soloed baron :D with a ending score of 21/5/6 <33333

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One of the best things about Shyvana is how flexible she is in terms of items :) I'm glad it worked out for you!

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Quite a few builds on her including this one can solo baron ^^

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I completely agree to the intro of this guide. Blood Razor + Trinity is the hottest item for shyvana as of now. After patch 6.10-6.11 where they buffed blood razor and tri-force there's no point going cinderhulk.

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I'm a Shyvana main, too - have been since shortly after I started playing League mid-S4, except for a short period where I mained Rumble at the beginning of S5. I've built her so many different ways - AD, AP, full tank, and everything in between. I've tried almost all keystone masteries on her, too. For the longest time I used a rune page that had one mark of critical chance, and the rest were all attack speed.

My favorite items on her are definitely Frozen Mallet and Maw of Malmortius. To be honest, I don't get to build either of those on her in most games, and almost never both. But when the opportunity arises, and the enemy's mid and ADC are immobile with no displacement CC, these two items are game-breaking. The sheer amount of control Mallet and Maw give Shyvana over the flow of a teamfight creates one of the highest points I've ever had in League.

Two items I don't like building on her are Titanic Hydra and Dead Man's Plate. I'm not a fan of the funky hitbox on Titanic. If I need AoE auto-attacks, I'd rather buy Ravenous Hydra and Spirit Visage (another amazing item combo). While the passive movespeed of Dead Man's is nice, its cost, stats, and slow are mediocre. It also discourages Shyvana from auto-attacking minions or nearby jungle camps in a siege to charge up her Fury bar, since the charge time to get to the slow is abysmally long without the Homeguard buff. I'd much rather build Randuin's Omen, Sunfire Cape, or even Thornmail.

Like you, I've also come to appreciate Trinity Force on Shyvana, but not as much as I probably should. Especially with Enchantment: Bloodrazor. I'll use this guide for the next few games I play on her and see how it goes. One of the few drawbacks to CDR Shyvana is the lack of Scaling Magic Resist glyphs, since stacking MR is so strong right now. I'll try to find a balance and comment again with my results.

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frozen mallet and maw are troll items on shyvana.

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Personally I like titanic a lot, same radius as her ult Q pretty much, tho I guess it's preference. Also there's a reason I take 2 types a rune pages for my shy, one for the cdr the other for mr stacking.

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Titanic got nerfed, thats my 5th item (if i have boots).

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I know but i still love the item lol

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How good is the frozen mallet? It gives some decent stats and the passive synergies with her e ability

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Frozen Mallet isn't bad for a 5th or 6th item, since it has a lot of health and the slow is very useful. I would not recommend it as a 1st or 2nd item. You get no real powerspike from it (ad is too low), and all that health doesn't mean too much without resistances to back it up. It's better used as a final slot item, since it helps her with peeling.

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ahhhh, I never knew the two items dont stack anymore. good to know.

But the thing is, you want to be out there in field ready to gank and counter jungle as fast as you can. Not full clearing and basicaly doing nothing.

To be honest, your guide is pretty good, it has a lot of details. I would suggest this guide maybe to all bronze-Silver-Low Gold out there who wants to try shyvana jungle. If you trying to climb to diamond with shyvana jungle, nah i wouldnt suggest this at all. Sated shyvana is gone, you guys might aswell pick otehr junglers to main.

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Since there's no exp difference between upgrading your jungle item, being able to keep on clearing allows you to get to level 6 faster, which is where Shyvana's gank potential goes up. That being said, that doesn't mean I don't even gank pre6. If that were the case, then I wouldn't take Exhaust and Chilling Smite. But since I try to countergank and get the lanes that are pushed in our favor, I find those two things help a lot in securing kills.

My point with the full clear is that it's possible, not to do it every game. I just usually try to recall with at least 750g-800g after my first clear, so that I can get my Stalker's Blade and maybe a pink or couple of pots.

I realize that you're reading this guide after Sated has been removed, but I've always tried making a point that you could stacks off of kills and assists, trying to encourage ganking and counterjungling + dueling. Not the afk farm style. That doesn't mean people would automatically go and take my advice, but I was fully aware that the playstyle didn't work and was not fun to play with as a laner. So I tried to encourage something else. Her ganks aren't the best, but they can work with a little experience and a couple of handy slows.

And thanks :D I've worked really hard on this guide. Perhaps the focus would change if I ever reach the higher ranks, or maybe I'd switch to Machete by then. I'm hoping it'll always remain CDR focused, as I really like the ability uptime and sustained damage output.

I'm sorry if this comment seems all over the place or something, I'm really exhausted from work, but I didn't want to let this sit for much longer. I try to be prompt with my replies.

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And this is why I only do 3 camps:
You need 3 camps to buy talisman.
Machete+Talisman gives you the maximum sustain+exp gain in the jungle.
As shyvana you want to be able to get as much xp as possible from your camps and from counter jungling.
Shyvana is pretty **** at Ganking so your job is to counter jungle when you saw enemy jungler gank.
Yes, you going to end up smiting jungle camps and not champions.
And Thats why Machete+talisman is all you need

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Except they don't stack anymore. If I can manage a full clear without endangering myself, why waste time going back? The jungle enchantment gives the same amount of bonus exp at all tiers (50exp). The only benefit to upgrading is increased sustain, since you get both the lifesteal and health drain.

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Machete and Talisman's XP gains don't stack anymore, as of 6.9.

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Personally I have no issue counter jungling or counter ganking with this set up. The slows help a lot as well as the 2 or more laners with cc you should play her with.

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I apologize for not explaining why "machete" is better than talsman causing some major confusion. First of all, youre not trying to sustain, all you need to do is get a leash from your team mates and clear 3 camps, then recall to buy your talsman. With the help of your team mates and refilable potion, im sure you can do 3 camps without dying (Krugs-RED-Wolves or Gromp-Blue-Wolves. To be honest, the other dude(Vapora Dark) is right, it does not matter which one you buy first, its not big of a difference. It just tilts me that people want to do more than 3 camps because they have more sustain with talisman.

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The thing is it's more beneficial just doing full clear instead of only half. More opportunity to help ur laners just in case (this happens a lot to top lane as that usually where the first gank goes after a clear) or stop invades.

The issue was more than your response to talisman vs mechete, but im not explaining that.

The difference between the two is more significant with full clears and properly doing camps (kiting included). Full clears are not bad to do when u have the opportunity to do so, or it would be very common to only do one side by now.

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Gimme your summ name, ill add you, NA right?
Ill spectate you. direct message me.

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As Vapora Dark stated the two jg items don't stack exp anymore. So spectating won't change anything to be honest. Fact is I'd rather get the full jg item.

[6.24] The Dragon Nears - S7 Shyvana Guide

[6.24] The Dragon Nears - S7 Shyvana Guide

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