ok,

tnx for replaying, it make sense...

i will try 3rd item Liandry and see how it goes :)

I build my 3rd item depending on enemy team composition and my own situation.

-If i'm fed and/or i'm the main damage source (underfarmed mid/adc) i build Rabadon+Void build

-If i'm ok and the enemy team consist of at least 2 tanks (sion top, sejuani jungler) i build Liandry's Torment as my 3rd item.

After a couple of experiments of 3rd item Liandry, i've noticed that Liandry actually work wonders with Ravenous flock and Torment. It's damage timer resets with every tick of your ult. And ofc you'll slow the enemy with your Decrepify and it will amplify the damage.

Also, torment alone lenghts the damage time of Liandry by 4 seconds. Its a very good item on Swain in my opinion.


-MS quints ? I've never tried it but i believe that sacrificing that 15 Ap kinda lowers Swain's early game poking and after 6 dueling potential a bit. Despite long cooldowns, Swain has very good Ap scalings. I think AP Quints are the best choice.

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great guide m8, especially the matchups...

do you think that the build with rylas and liandrys (but with sorc shoes) have considerably less dmg than with void rabadon?

and, have you tried MS quints? are they needed and does that 15AP deficit shows?