I love wrecking in mid with this build. +1

I like this build a lot more than some of the other builds. too many other builds are very much like a glass cannon and any decent team will focus u down extremely fast. this build gives you some defense while still giving you plenty of ap to cause serious hurt.

+1

Alright dude, you're just being rude now, I said I was done with the conversation, because all in all how well you do depends on the person and the build, meaning any build can be just as good as another, it just depends on who is using it. Now just stop I'm done with this stupid argument and your stupid reply's that use the reputation of other people not your own, how do you know how they think? maybe they think both ways to play as him is just as good and decide to use the one you are referring to just because they may find it easier to remember. and how exactly do you know how they think, Oh wait you don't so stop talking for them, and let the discussion go.

@Junglers running in a straight line -
Lee Sin/Amumu would like a word with you

The Tiamat is a great example, actually. Part of a gunblade for brand is good (AP/Slow/Spell Vamp) whereas part of the Tiamat for Soraka is good (HP5 and MP5)

You explain how you USE the gunblade, any fool can do that, I mused at the fact that you didn't explain why you picked it over other items, wavering the advantages and disadvantages. Your "if you have not used something don't count it out" argument again doesn't work. Tiamat Soraka.


Now it's one thing to call my views of Brand "skewed", but two of the best Brand players in the world? Are you better than them at Brand too?

Yes, there are times when I get ganked successfully, but the only reason I ever have a chance at not getting killed is when I attempt to use my stun sequence. Also, when your enemy is coming at you in a straight line to attempt to gank you it is quite easy to hit them with conflag and sear.



There isn't a lot to explain because it is a straight forward item, which means when I say it is helpful to cast on a fleeing enemy I am explaining how I use it.



That is a terrible example because the tiamat offers no help to soraka, but the hextech offers both AP and spell vamp, also a bit of extra damage... at least my item makes some sense. I also mentioned that I used to use Rylia's and found the the Hextech works better through EXPERIMENTING WITH ITEMS, if you have not used something don't count it out, my goodness a brick wall would understand this by now better than you have.




At level 18 if I am fully equipped then I will have almost 800AP not 540 I used 540 as quick way to describe a situation, and no I would not use my ulti on a single enemy but chances are if I am getting ganked while in Lane I am probably pushing the lane's normal enemy champion therefore when the gank comes both enemy champions would be there, and if there are no minions it will hit one up to 3 times and the other 2 times...


I'm done with this conversation, you have said so yourself you are not experienced with Brand. When you play a character enough you learn how that character works best(at least for you) and I feel that Q is the skill you should level up first, W second, and conflag last to save yourself the trouble of dying early on and losing to much mana early on.


You know I hope my build never becomes as high ranked as this one actually, because then the better way to build brand will stay a secret, therefore only I will know how to use him to his fullest potential and every other person I play against will sit here view this build and In game I will be able to stop them no problem.

However I will Rep you Xenasis, because you helped me with the rune set up thx, and while you may have skewed views and opinions about Brand but I can not say you don't know how to play other characters.

"I find that I don't have ANY hp issues when I play with Brand therefore I find pots on Brand to be useless."
The quote is there.
Anyway, I doubt you NEVER EVER get successfully ganked, even top level players make mistakes, you won't hit every one of your skillshots, and you might not have the chance (E.G. Amumu Q > R)

I did read your guide regarding the gunblade, but you still didn't explain it. To quote the guide - "basically it enhances the last two items and just makes you unstoppable," makes you unstoppable WHY? Why is that a better item than a Rylai's?... The AD is useless and the Rylai's gives you a CONSISTENT slow and free health. The part you quoted just said to use it... that would be obvious with any on hit item. Rylai's also has defence, and it's slow can be used defensively.

I've not tried it because it's a stupid item on any AP champion such as Brand. He already has a stun - which is better than a slow, and if he didn't you still would get a Rylai's over it. That's like saying to me "Have you tried Tiamat on Soraka? It's much better than her other items, however since you've not tried it, you cannot sway my point that Tiamat is a great item on Soraka"

Spell vamp is very good on Brand, but for that you build a WotA, not a gunblade :/

Your "(assuming I'm level 18 with 540 AP)" makes your little damage calculation obsolete, not only does your build cost 14k, which isn't all that easy to amass, but people will DEFINITELY have MR by then. About 50%/100ish (or much more as a tanky DPS), tbh. Calculating that in the proper MR shred way, the Sorc Shoes take it to 80, and the void staff to 48, you still have about 30-35% to deal with. Just to put that into perspective, your (roughly) 1500 damage comes to 975. The 300 magic damage becomes 200, and you shouldn't waste your ult single target really anyway. But, what would you rather have? 50% slow for 3s, or a permanent 35-15% slow?


I thought it was worded funny myself, but hey. -
I essentially meant to say that though I myself know that W is the best for Brand, and it would otherwise be your word against mine - high level players (such as Reginald and Shushei) play Brand maxing W first, which backs up my point, and since they take E second, it nullifies yours.

I never said I don't take damage, I know when to go in and be offensive, I know when to be defensive, and because(Early game) my stun is very low cost I can stun any jungler that attempts to gank me then retreat to my tower, in fact often times if my CD's are done and I have decent HP/mana I can kill the jungler and in rare instances the person in my lane. How about this, once I get my new computer I will record myself playing as brand a few times and add it to my Brand build, I can't do this now because my computer is kinda bad(this isn't the one I normally play on, it's a bit complicated why I can't play on the normal one atm).



B/c they work for me(granted atm I am only using the tier 2 versions and not as many quints, obviously).
Thx for the link though very informative, I'll prob redo my runes l8r





This was an odd choice for me I know that much, but I have two questions for you:
1)Have you ever tried it?
2)Did you read my guide fully(no, b/c then you would know why I use it)

Now I'll explain why I use it right here so you don't have to go back to my build:
"OK so to get an enemy kill you want to rush in(Yes rush in with a squishy) and use Pyroclasm if enemy CHAMPION( you want to be targeting a champion) is near ANY unit because then the spell will bounce and hit the champion 2 or 3 times. Next use Sear on the champion to stun him/her, after that lay down a nice Pillar of Flame right on top of the champion(s) and quickly use Conflagration and if you have Sear again use it to stun, if not maybe Hextec Gunblade to slow them, followed by your next available spell and an Ignite or Exhaust to keep after them."

The hexetech Gunblade can also be used as defense, if you jump out of a jungle and I do:
(assuming I'm level 18 with 540 AP)
Conflag at 210 basic damage with 297 AP damage
Sear at 250 basic damage with 351 AP damage with a 2 second stun
then a PoF right on your stunned face at 260 basic dmg with 324 AP damage and 146 ablaze dmg
I think you will start to run, and if I have my Ulti rdy you will 80% of the time be dead, but if not you will be really close and if I can cast something that does 300 magic damage and slows if you aren't dead from the basic 300 dmg then the 50%slow for 3 seconds will give me enough time to cast sear once more that will just destroy you...

Also the spell vamp with AP helps some, as well as the bit of life steal so I can attack minions and gain health back so I don't have to recall...


Also I used to use Rylia's, I found I like the Gunblade a bit more...


Going back to the first thing you posted:



It is kinda worded funny, and I don't quite understand what you are trying to say could you repeat it for me, but review the wording a bit(Sorry I can't really understand it lol)

What I'm saying is, I have learned myself that W is the best on Brand, and the best players in the world have, and I know that because of that, it is - it backs me up. Don't get me wrong, I've played Brand quite a bit myself, he's a fun champion, but I'm not making that comment because I think I'm all amazing on Brand, I'm making it because they are, to back me up.

You said here -
"was once against a ryze with HP pots, in mid... I KILLED HIM NEXT TO HIS TOWER BECAUSE I STUNNED HIM RIGHT AFTER HE USED 2 OF HIS HP POTS AGAINST ME, THEN LAYED DOWN A PoF AND HE WAS DEAD TWICE OVER... your second argument decent but can still be beat...(BTW I had no pots during that fight, in fact I have never bought a pot unless I was level 18 and fully equipped)."

Though you might be a better player in a lane, that could be because of a variety of reasons, good last hits, ability to land skillshots, map awareness, not necessarily understanding of your champion. Don't tell me you NEVER take ANY damage either - you will definitely get ganked by the jungler, and since you don't have flash (which you should) you'll either die or be on a sliver of health. I find it hard to believe that you're better than Reginald at playing Brand in such a way that you never take any damage and always kill the enemy player.

If you know so much about runes, why do you have Mana/Level reds, MP5 blues, CDR/Level quints and one MP5/level quint?...
You might find this useful -
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rune-tips-what-secondary-and-primary-means-and-more-24255
and
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiSAUE5pXNC8dF94UlVMai1zQy1Tb0hLY1FHeE5VZ1E#gid=0
As a rule of thumb, rarely use secondary runes.

Why do you have a Gunblade on Brand too? The only champions that's viable on are Morde, Jax and Akali, and you are neither, nor do you use AD at all. If you need a slow, go with the cheaper and better Rylai's Crystal Sceptre.

It was intended for you and the other guy Xensos or whatever his name is, but that is to bad because the spell is amazing, also I suggest, so you can understand how I use him, to look at this.
I am going to quote myself lol

I'm not sure if that question was directed at me or not. I absolutely can't comment because I'm pretty terribad with brand. Can't land that skillshot for the life of me.