kk, thanks. I'll check that range, I just remember that it got nerfed at some point and haven't played Elise after that.

Elise is awful carry though, at some point I had so good mechanics that I was able to dodge any spell that could have been dodged in theory but still couldn't carry games, stats didn't matter. When miraculous baron-steals were possible, carrying was much more easier. But yea, I'll check that range thing if they have changed it back or something.

Edit: HAH! Ran some tests, yes rappel work on both dragon and baron camps! And apparently they haven't even changed anything back. I just thought that it's impossible even though it's still possible. I feel myself stupid now. It's extremely max range. Highly unlikely that you would get into drake-camp since you can't jump in if drake moves even one inch. And you can easily fail that Rappel. Could still work on baron since it can't move, just needs careful Rappel so that Elise doesn't move an inch before going in.

Edit2: Oh! And I was btw able to jungle enemies top-jungle and whole my jungle without using hp-pots, then took drake with pots and then whole my jungle again. Apparently modern Elise has nice clear, lol. Das sustain.

Hi Divic. In my opinion Elise is still more than viable, but her impact on games can depend on the elo you play in. In lower elos, you might go for junglers such as Vi or Xin Zhao, who snowball harder than Elise does. In higher elos, her skillset gives you the possibility to carry games harder.

I might be wrong, but despite the recent changes in the jungle, I think that you can actually jump on monster camps with Rappel, even Dragon & Baron . At least I'm able to do so, so I don't see why you could not.

Thanks for the precision concerning spells that you can dodge or not with Rappel. It would be a bit long to list them all though, but yeah you cannot dodge DoT spells for instance if they already hit you ( Ignite for example).

mmh, how much value you have got out of Elise? I find her too weak now for proper playing. The fact that you can't jump on dragon and baron -camps hit her hard.

You were speaking about Zed's Death Mark but you didn't actually say anything specific. I am not quite sure what you meant, but you can also kill Zed on your own. You don't need teammates. You can dodge Death Mark with Rappel and just jump on him. As an additional comment: you have to dodge it immediately, you can't dodge it after he has given you the mark. Basically you have to hit Rappel while Zed is in the air.

Edit: yes, you mentioned at least in the spell explanations. You could make it clear what it dodges and with it doesn't. For example you can dodge Karthus's Requiem but not Vladimir's or Zed's ultimate AFTER it has landed, Rappel makes you untargetable, not invulnerable.

Hi Infectious Lepar, and thanks for your comment. As explained in the notes, runes are highly inspired of C9 Meteos's guide. To be honest, at first I was as suspicious as you, so I tried both (hybrid and magic only). The point is that as mentioned in this guide, Elise is particularly strong during the early stages of the game. At this point, her AP isn't very high yet. That means that to clear up the jungle and gank, a significant part of her damages still comes from her inner attack damage. Because of this, choosing hybrid penetration marks and quintessences truly increases your burst and helps you impacting the game even more while you are at your best.

Regarding the number of runes (6 Marks of attack speed and 3 Marks of hybrid penetration), I just feel that 10% of extra attack speed is enough. But as I said, if you think that you can benefit more from 9 Marks of attack speed for instance, feel free to try it out in game.

I hope this answer helped you ; if you need further informations, don't hesitate to ask.

This is a very in-depth guide and a very atractive guide a that. I will say that I'm not exactly sure why you went with an odd number of runes for your marks, and on top of that, why you decided to go hybrid runes is beyond me. If all her actual power comes from her ap(even the on-hit damage of her spiders in skittering frenzy) why wouldn't you just stick with magic pen runes?