I've had more success with Deathfire Touch because it applies on every q poke and scales harder than Thunderlord's Decree with the massive AP you'll be getting

I'm glad i could help, sorry about the deathfires thouch. I don't know why I haven't changed it, in-game i use Thunderlords myself so thanks for informing me

Don't shoot me, but all my friends have been telling me to change the "Deathfire touch" to "Thunderlords decree". Why is Death fire better than thunderlords?

Anyway your build is good, I've been using it and you have helped me lot.
THANKS

Sir.. you think cooldown reduction runes and magic penetration might be applicable to veigar?? for veigar stock??

Sry for not seeing your comment, but yeah that's the main reason I max Q first

Since nobody wants to answere.... I figured it out by myself :D

You don´t need to use Q to finish the champion to get the 5 ap per kill.... you dont even need Q. Just kill him somehow and you get the 5 ap.

That changes all...

I´ve played veigar a couple of years ago. now i m doing it again and of course i noticed the problem with the changed stun...
but i still dont understand, why everyone puts all points into baleful strike right at beginning.
i start with Q, E, E, W, W, R.
i m doing it that way, cuz...
1. it´s often possible to still stun the enemy (stun/dm/bs and stun/dm/bs/ulti and the most enemies r dead)
2. during fight with involved minions, i often have problems to hit the enemy with Q
3. i always need 2 points in stun cuz enemys just step aside when i use dm without it

I would like to know, whats wrong with my tactic and why i m not good with "pushed-Q-tactic"...

Thanks a lot for the advice, hopefully it has made the guide better. I've tried to do/change most of the things you mentioned, except the masteries. The reason for the masteries is that Feast would be really nice on Veigar, but I'd have to get another point from some other place than just Double-Edged Sword . But again: thanks a lot.

It seems like you want feedback and that's very good. However, I may sound harsh but I try to be constructive.

Cheat Sheet

The notes are ok but I strongly disagree with Perfect Hex Core being there. It's not even Veigar's item. Additionally, mejai's soulstealer is not good because you have to get it early for the stacks which you won't stack immediately and therefore delay your tear.

Introduction

An introduction should make the reader interested, however, the last sentence is kind of dull. What I mean is "I don't see a point in wasting gold on armor or magic resist" sounds really negative and arrogant. It can be provocative but not so much. Something like this is much may be more appealing to someone who wants to know more about the champion:

"I main Veigar and in my opinion he needs only tons of AP. However, people say he's super squishy but who needs armor or magic resistance if you can just blow them away in a second."

And ask politely for votes if they liked it.

Pros / Cons

*Infinite AP
*escape-tool
Look at some other guides for design ideas as it is pretty much standard.

Summoner Spells

Clarity will be most likely removed from summoners rift and it is useless for Veigar as you should farm with Q, have Doran's Ring (good mana regen) and a mana regen passive.

Exhaust is actually good against assassins because some can blink over your stun and get to you easily. So the reasoning is not true entirely. Exhaust reduces their damage output and increases yours. In some match ups it's good for the early game and the slow can set up your stun. It's situationally.

Abilities

Those icons aren't necessary because you already wrote in the heading the keybinding of the ability.
Suggestion: You should also make a break in the "Baleful Strike" section since you're talking about the AP stacking mechanic and the new two hit mechanic for easier reading.

Skill Sequence

Some space between the ability sequence and text will let it look better. The last sentence isn't important as the reader can look up the description.

Laning

Check the spelling and bbcode. Furthermore, I think you mean in the last paragraph that it is easy to gank for him and not that he's easy to gank (although you should also mention this). Poking consumes a lot of mana and push the lane, which makes you easy to gank. That's why it's important to say that you need to ward.

Masteries

I think Butcher and Feast are better for his laning phase than Double-Edged Sword . This is just my opinion.

Runes

1.) AP seals are super weak and are already beaten by scaling AP glyphs at level 4. HP seals though, make him very tanky in the early game where he's the weakest.

2.) It's ok but there should be also a AP version because some wreck you even in the late game with their long range and damage.

3.) As said before the seals aren't useful. Hp per lvl would be better.

Consider also CDR runes as you don't get any CDR in your build.


That's it for today. Hope it helps your guide!

Thanks a lot dude, but yeah sorry again for the typos. My official excuse will be that I'm from Denmark :D

SORRY

You really shouldn't:
Exhaust: If you are colse enough to use this spell, you can just stun and nuke them, so don't.

Exhaust: If you are colse enough to use this spell

If you are colse enough

colse