Click to open network menu
Join or Log In
Mobafire logo

Join the leading League of Legends community. Create and share Champion Guides and Builds.

Create an MFN Account






Or

's Forum Avatar

Caitlyn - Unorthodox Items

Creator: Jebus McAzn January 9, 2011 8:45pm
Jebus McAzn
<Retired Moderator>
Jebus McAzn's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
7017
Joined:
Sep 30th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 9, 2011 8:45pm | Report
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/caitlyn-problem-officer-burst-as-48301

This is a guide that I recently published and there's one thing that worries me. It seems like I'm getting too many basic items early game - the only thing I had going through my mind was "Ok, so I've got a Sheen, Phage, boots, IE, and a Brutalizer just sitting here... Any Trinity Force yet?"

Would you recommend I change it to rushing Triforce or just keeping it the way it is?
Scrax
<Retired Moderator>
Scrax's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
5565
Joined:
Jul 29th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 9, 2011 8:50pm | Report
Rush it. Before IE, I'd say.
nand
<Member>
nand's Forum Avatar
Posts:
346
Joined:
Jan 4th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 9, 2011 9:00pm | Report
Why the rush on Sheen and Trinity Force? Your Q spell doesn't apply on-hit effects.
Scrax
<Retired Moderator>
Scrax's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
5565
Joined:
Jul 29th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 9, 2011 9:02pm | Report
Headshot & Sheen proc synergy is AWESOME :D I did 50% of Sivir's HP with that **** :)
Jebus McAzn
<Retired Moderator>
Jebus McAzn's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
7017
Joined:
Sep 30th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 9, 2011 9:07pm | Report
nand wrote:

Why the rush on Sheen and Trinity Force? Your Q spell doesn't apply on-hit effects.


Like what Scrax said, it's because of the headshot/sheen combo which just does insane damage.

Scrax: Where would Brutalizer go then? Before or after IE?
nand
<Member>
nand's Forum Avatar
Posts:
346
Joined:
Jan 4th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 9, 2011 9:49pm | Report
Just tried out the build in a practice game, right up to the Trinity Force, and I felt the damage was.... very underwhelming.

I did everything right as far as I could tell. Charged up headshot, then ran up to an enemy, hit them with Q + an auto-attack to trigger both.. and it dealt a whopping.. 20% of their HP?

I had to follow it up by like 10 auto-attacks to get the kill.

Of course, nearly none of those were critical strikes so the Infinity Edge passive didn't go into effect, but even if it did (which was rare), the initial strike only dealt like 30%-40% of their HP max, against bots.

(For comparison, my typical Tristana build usually deals like 70% of their max HP per auto-attack)

Her early game was absolute pwnage, but it always is. Caitlyn's problem is that she can't scale into mid or end-game at all. Your build did mitigate her mid-game problems somewhat, but in end-game she was still hilariously useless.

Even Sheen + Headshot ultimate didn't deal that much damage, maybe around 40% at best.
Jebus McAzn
<Retired Moderator>
Jebus McAzn's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
7017
Joined:
Sep 30th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 10, 2011 3:47am | Report
If your Tristana is dealing 70% of a squishy's health per shot, your opponents are seriously underleveled.... :P

I have changed the item build accordingly - perhaps rushing Triforce is a better idea.
Scrax
<Retired Moderator>
Scrax's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
5565
Joined:
Jul 29th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 10, 2011 3:53am | Report
Sorry for not replying as fast, but it seems you've gotten it all sorted out, so :)
And yeah, those must have been some underleveled players O.o 70% of their HP? Thats ridiculous.
nand
<Member>
nand's Forum Avatar
Posts:
346
Joined:
Jan 4th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 10, 2011 8:02am | Report
We're talking about damage versus bots here, keep in mind.

Caitlyn deals about as much damage to bots as Tristana does to normal players, which means Caitlyn in a normal game would be effectively useless.
beast mondo
<Member>
beast mondo's Forum Avatar
Posts:
24
Joined:
Jan 6th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep January 11, 2011 6:26pm | Report
well thats a pretty interesting idea to work on. i see how your damage output might not be what your looking for with piltover peacemaker but i see what you are going at.

ummm well i guess i might try it out but it seems very different.

You need to log in before commenting.

League of Legends Champions:

Teamfight Tactics Guide