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Wayne3100 wrote:
Didn't even realise there was any shoutcasting for those inhouses, just checked that first game. Shoutout to the black screen that I had to look at for the first 15 min or so.
Yeah, would've been like that if it wasn't for LastPlagas' warning. I was having some issues with OBS the other times so I always deleted the vids, echoing voice and weird stuff :/ Sorry about the black screen tho.
Another fun night. Well, mostly. Support and jungle is still stressful because of the potential to directly fudge up someone's lane for them, plus the onus to do the exact opposite. I'm tempted to take up Shyvana so I have an excuse to spend practically all of my time farming jungle creeps. Plus I might actually remember to at least try to counter-jungle. It always slips my mind in game.
Game 1, I think I did a... well, mediocre job in lane, but it was better than I expected. In my first night of inhouses I completely cocked up supporting for Fox one game and to be honest, that made me really reluctant to support for him just because I did not want to **** it up for him again. My reactions were off, resulting in a lot of potential E-damage lost in trades, plus missed opportunities for Qs, but I was doing a good job of at least trying to be aware of trades and participating in them (nothing irritates me more in a duo-lane than when one partner stands completely idle in trades while in position to participate. I try not to make that mistake). I could probably have afforded to try and make some plays because I can trust Fox not to get baited into any bad ones, and good ones could only lead to good things. But anyway, that was pretty fun. Although, that first R... I don't know why I expected to Ashe to move down. Or actually I do. In my ELO most bot-laners are either pushovers of overly-aggressive. Ergo, when someone is not a pushover, my instinct is to anticipate over-aggression, when in the inhouses I really need to be expecting smart behaviour.
Late game... Apparently we were a split-push comp? I had no idea what was going on that game and I really don't think anyone tried to take the reigns and give it some direction, which is a pity because that's something I really want to observe in the inhouses. There was a lovely game the last time I participated where I learnt a lot from observing how the more experienced players directed plays.
Game 2, I'd just bought Vi. I was right, I do enjoy her kit. Making first blood was a nice confidence boost but was followed by several minutes of me feeling useless as I achieved nothing. I could have made 3 ults, potentially three sets of kills, before my internet threw a tantrum, but I never found/made the opportunity. I'm guessing Vi is a pretty decent turret diver? I'm really proud of that first dive I made in the game, allowing an excellent follow up ult from Kennen in the confines of the jungle. I think that was a good play and I'm definitely getting more comfortable playing as melee intiators (I traditionally play ranged). Jungling is still a mess.
Game 3 is a prime example of what I fear and why jungling stresses me out in inhouses. I royally screwed over Wayne's lane. First mistake was moving bot after wolves instead of returning top. Noct hadn't ganked top yet but was likely to be in the vicinity, so I should have headed that was for a counter-gank. I love counter-ganking because it's so easy to succeed at when you can predict them. Second problem, well, I'm not sure I should have gone onto Noct at all (my reasoning was Kat was near to her turret so me an Irelia could trap Noct before Kat made a move). I accidentally moved my mouse too far and scrolled the screen far to the right, sending the bush off the screen and resulting in my Q going awry. I think we could have traded 1/0 instead of 1/1 if I'd hit it instead. After Wayne died I should have tanked the creeps until a wave came up to them so he didn't miss exp. It's not a concept I'm unfamiliar with, I've watched it happen quite a few times in streams and remembered to do it myself sometimes.
After that I made numerous other glaring errors. I'd tried to avoid negatively snowballing emotionally, but spending a lot of time achieving nothing and then failing horribly when I tried to make plays resulted in me going from trying to keep my cool to having completely lost it. Surrender was a mercy.
Jungling is so much harder to do in the inhouses than other stuff, though, because it requires so much game knowledge right from the beginning, whereas mechanics tend to hold more sway in lanes until mid-game comes around, and my lack of game knowledge is vastly greater than lack of mechanics.
Game 1, I think I did a... well, mediocre job in lane, but it was better than I expected. In my first night of inhouses I completely cocked up supporting for Fox one game and to be honest, that made me really reluctant to support for him just because I did not want to **** it up for him again. My reactions were off, resulting in a lot of potential E-damage lost in trades, plus missed opportunities for Qs, but I was doing a good job of at least trying to be aware of trades and participating in them (nothing irritates me more in a duo-lane than when one partner stands completely idle in trades while in position to participate. I try not to make that mistake). I could probably have afforded to try and make some plays because I can trust Fox not to get baited into any bad ones, and good ones could only lead to good things. But anyway, that was pretty fun. Although, that first R... I don't know why I expected to Ashe to move down. Or actually I do. In my ELO most bot-laners are either pushovers of overly-aggressive. Ergo, when someone is not a pushover, my instinct is to anticipate over-aggression, when in the inhouses I really need to be expecting smart behaviour.
Late game... Apparently we were a split-push comp? I had no idea what was going on that game and I really don't think anyone tried to take the reigns and give it some direction, which is a pity because that's something I really want to observe in the inhouses. There was a lovely game the last time I participated where I learnt a lot from observing how the more experienced players directed plays.
Game 2, I'd just bought Vi. I was right, I do enjoy her kit. Making first blood was a nice confidence boost but was followed by several minutes of me feeling useless as I achieved nothing. I could have made 3 ults, potentially three sets of kills, before my internet threw a tantrum, but I never found/made the opportunity. I'm guessing Vi is a pretty decent turret diver? I'm really proud of that first dive I made in the game, allowing an excellent follow up ult from Kennen in the confines of the jungle. I think that was a good play and I'm definitely getting more comfortable playing as melee intiators (I traditionally play ranged). Jungling is still a mess.
Game 3 is a prime example of what I fear and why jungling stresses me out in inhouses. I royally screwed over Wayne's lane. First mistake was moving bot after wolves instead of returning top. Noct hadn't ganked top yet but was likely to be in the vicinity, so I should have headed that was for a counter-gank. I love counter-ganking because it's so easy to succeed at when you can predict them. Second problem, well, I'm not sure I should have gone onto Noct at all (my reasoning was Kat was near to her turret so me an Irelia could trap Noct before Kat made a move). I accidentally moved my mouse too far and scrolled the screen far to the right, sending the bush off the screen and resulting in my Q going awry. I think we could have traded 1/0 instead of 1/1 if I'd hit it instead. After Wayne died I should have tanked the creeps until a wave came up to them so he didn't miss exp. It's not a concept I'm unfamiliar with, I've watched it happen quite a few times in streams and remembered to do it myself sometimes.
After that I made numerous other glaring errors. I'd tried to avoid negatively snowballing emotionally, but spending a lot of time achieving nothing and then failing horribly when I tried to make plays resulted in me going from trying to keep my cool to having completely lost it. Surrender was a mercy.
Jungling is so much harder to do in the inhouses than other stuff, though, because it requires so much game knowledge right from the beginning, whereas mechanics tend to hold more sway in lanes until mid-game comes around, and my lack of game knowledge is vastly greater than lack of mechanics.
@Kinen
Game 1: Shaco makes any team a late-game splitpushing team comp. >.< As for your laning, I was distracted in the top lane, so I didn't really see any of your laning. Actually, I'm not really sure what honestly won us the games. I was alone most of the time in top lane.
Game 3: I actually predicted that you would make a gank top and I actually guessed and saw you coming as well after I pulled off the gank on Wayne. Perhaps you should have started red -> blue -> top gank for maximum effectiveness. Khazem didn't ward, so it's quite possible that if you get there before me, you could kill Khazem before I could counter-gank (unlikely, but you could make him back off with decent damage, probably).
One of your main weaknesses for jungling is that you lacked awareness of the timers on your buffs, meaning I could steal them and then see you in my ward coming to get it nearly 30s-1 min later when I was ganking botlane with your blue buff. I think I denied just about every blue buff after your first.
Game 1:
Shaco makes any team a late-game splitpushing team comp. >.< As for your laning, I was distracted in the top lane, so I didn't really see any of your laning. Actually, I'm not really sure what honestly won us the games. I was alone most of the time in top lane.Game 3: I actually predicted that you would make a gank top and I actually guessed and saw you coming as well after I pulled off the gank on Wayne. Perhaps you should have started red -> blue -> top gank for maximum effectiveness. Khazem didn't ward, so it's quite possible that if you get there before me, you could kill Khazem before I could counter-gank (unlikely, but you could make him back off with decent damage, probably).
One of your main weaknesses for jungling is that you lacked awareness of the timers on your buffs, meaning I could steal them and then see you in my ward coming to get it nearly 30s-1 min later when I was ganking botlane with your blue buff. I think I denied just about every blue buff after your first.
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