as much as i love trundle i dont think he should be tier 2, maybe tier 3 because his ult isnt that good in the current meta of hp stacking
and wouldnt warwick be higher now with the new BotRK? same with shyvana
also is the tier list based on clear times, ganks, or just overall game?
and wouldnt warwick be higher now with the new BotRK? same with shyvana
also is the tier list based on clear times, ganks, or just overall game?
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Its based on overall.
Haven't had time to re-evaluate how league of Botrk changes some heroes, warwick will probably move up a little, shyv more then that, but trundle won't move, I'll explain when i'm not so tired, tl;dr is 40% cdr pillar uptime + shredding resist tanks like xin/hec.
Haven't had time to re-evaluate how league of Botrk changes some heroes, warwick will probably move up a little, shyv more then that, but trundle won't move, I'll explain when i'm not so tired, tl;dr is 40% cdr pillar uptime + shredding resist tanks like xin/hec.
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I'll admit there is some personal bias when it comes to lee, I'll probably move him to a spot high in tier 2 soon. Shyvana is probably going up with botrk changes as is voli. I haven't played rammus in a longgg time, since the very start of S3 and I found him underwhelming. Whenever I ask any jungler about rammus I just get called a troll gg. I'll test him soon.
Shen isn't moving, cho might move down a little. Shaco and trundle will probably move down a little too. Naut isn't making it past tier 4, warwick might depending on how Botrk and some other items I want to try on him go. Amumu I need to play more to determine, although I have heard people say he is extremely strong.
EDIT: First post edited. I intend to keep this thread active, ask away.
Shen isn't moving, cho might move down a little. Shaco and trundle will probably move down a little too. Naut isn't making it past tier 4, warwick might depending on how Botrk and some other items I want to try on him go. Amumu I need to play more to determine, although I have heard people say he is extremely strong.
EDIT: First post edited. I intend to keep this thread active, ask away.
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Copied and pasted this from my post on your blog.
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If I may ask, why is
Riven lower than
Singed and
Fiddlesticks? I personally feel she outclasses them both in a majority of the traits necessary to be a good jungle champion. That, and I also personally feel she's better than most if not all of the other champions in her tier (Save for probably
Nautilus in one or two traits).
She can invade and counter jungle very well (Probably just not against the god duelists and counter junglers), has great early ganks, has alright sustain, and if fed she can snowball very hard. The only thing I don't feel she is good at is recovering from a bad start, since she mostly becomes a glass cannon or a tanky stun machine in team fights later because of it. Though with the recent fix to her passive, I think she handles this somewhat better than before.
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She can invade and counter jungle very well (Probably just not against the god duelists and counter junglers), has great early ganks, has alright sustain, and if fed she can snowball very hard. The only thing I don't feel she is good at is recovering from a bad start, since she mostly becomes a glass cannon or a tanky stun machine in team fights later because of it. Though with the recent fix to her passive, I think she handles this somewhat better than before.
Riven needs a lot of gold to be effective, gold that isn't really found in the jungle. Her dueling is only slightly above average, and if she falls behind and tries to go a tank build, she isn't as tanky naturally as some others are and she doesn't have much CC either. She has ok sustain and clearing, but it isn't enough to outweigh her glaring weaknesses.
Singed and fiddlesticks have clear advantages over her, fiddlesticks in his amazing kit and sustain, singed through his tankiness with only a few items and strong cc and ganks. Darius who she is right under, has the potential to go a tank/tanky build or a more damagey build, all while providing a good amount of fight presence and peel, as well as more CC.
Singed and fiddlesticks have clear advantages over her, fiddlesticks in his amazing kit and sustain, singed through his tankiness with only a few items and strong cc and ganks. Darius who she is right under, has the potential to go a tank/tanky build or a more damagey build, all while providing a good amount of fight presence and peel, as well as more CC.
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H4xDefender wrote:
Riven needs a lot of gold to be effective, gold that isn't really found in the jungle. Her dueling is only slightly above average, and if she falls behind and tries to go a tank build, she isn't as tanky naturally as some others are and she doesn't have much CC either. She has ok sustain and clearing, but it isn't enough to outweigh her glaring weaknesses.
Singed and fiddlesticks have clear advantages over her, fiddlesticks in his amazing kit and sustain, singed through his tankiness with only a few items and strong cc and ganks. Darius who she is right under, has the potential to go a tank/tanky build or a more damagey build, all while providing a good amount of fight presence and peel, as well as more CC.
Her dueling is pretty good IMO. Just not god-tier level. I've had situations where I've outdueled guys like
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_txVRT00dI
I will fix my mic for the next video so it isn't as scratchy and so that you can hear me without blasting your speakers, and I'll also make it so you can actually see the tier list without the use of a magnifying glass. I think I do a pretty ****ty job explaining looking back on this, but just tell me what you think. Tier list as it stands:
Tier 1:
Tier 2:
Tier 3:
Tier 4:
Tier 5:
Currently Unplaced:
Explanations provided upon inquiry. Yes I know it kind've copies Stonewall, but my main role is jungle, I'm not going to make a tier list of a role I'm not great at.
CHANGELOG: 3/4/2013:
Nautilus moved up in tier 4.
Rammus temporarily moved to tier 3. (testing, currently going off word of mouth).
Riven moved above zed in tier 4.
Lee sin moved to tier 2.
Volibear moved to tier 2.
Diana moved down in tier 3.
Irelia and Kayle swapped spots in tier 4.
Shyvana moved to tier 2 temporarily (theorycraft/word of mouth)
Rengar and Katarina swapped spots in tier 4.