Official LCS NA Summer Split 2014 Discussion...

[quote=NateDog13][quote=H4xDefender] IMO NA is going to end up 1. C9 2. CLG 3. Dig 4. TSM 5. LMQ 6. Curse 7. Complexity 8. EG [/quote] Too much faith in TSM imo. 1. C9 2. CLG 3. Dig 4. LMQ 5. TSM 6. Curse 7. Complexity 8. EG[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Not that it matters much, but why would you guys put EG below Complexity? I think EG have the potential to do a lot better, especially if they actually replace Snoopeh (rumored to be replaced by Helios soon[sup]TM[/sup])[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=Wayne3100] Not that it matters much, but why would you guys put EG below Complexity? I think EG have the potential to do a lot better, especially if they actually replace Snoopeh (rumored to be replaced by Helios soon[sup]TM[/sup]) [/quote] EG is a mess of a team right now, and Complexity has a ton of potential, beyond EG imo. They have a really strong team of independent league players who have been yearning to get into/get back into the LCS scene for ages, and now they've got the shot and they just need to pull themselves together in terms of teamwork. These guys are re-known for their individual skill and it shows.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=NateDog13] [quote=H4xDefender] IMO NA is going to end up 1. C9 2. CLG 3. Dig 4. TSM 5. LMQ 6. Curse 7. Complexity 8. EG [/quote] Too much faith in TSM imo. 1. C9 2. CLG 3. Dig 4. LMQ 5. TSM 6. Curse 7. Complexity 8. EG [/quote] This is pretty much my same expectations although I think TSM might finish as low as 6th. I agree that compLexity is better than EG right now, they've actually played a lot better than I anticipated them to. I thought they were going to be the second coming of Velocity, but they've played some pretty close games against good teams[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=SkidmarkD] Oddone's Olaf was also a possibility. It really does look like Amazing has a very limited nr of champions to play. Which is sad tbh. [/quote] better than Zuna's [[olaf]].[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=NateDog13] [quote=Wayne3100] Not that it matters much, but why would you guys put EG below Complexity? I think EG have the potential to do a lot better, especially if they actually replace Snoopeh (rumored to be replaced by Helios soon[sup]TM[/sup]) [/quote] EG is a mess of a team right now, and Complexity has a ton of potential, beyond EG imo. They have a really strong team of independent league players who have been yearning to get into/get back into the LCS scene for ages, and now they've got the shot and they just need to pull themselves together in terms of teamwork. These guys are re-known for their individual skill and it shows. [/quote] Don't forget that EG with their old roster completely STOMPED Complexity and also beat them in their first head to head lcs game. Their head to head in official matches is 4-0 so I still doubt their potential (especially considering Westrice isn't going to improve at all). 3 of their players are unarguably the weakest players for their respective roles (bubbadub, westrice and brokenshard - if you assume snoopeh is going to be replaced soon)[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Vynertje] [quote=NateDog13] [quote=Wayne3100] Not that it matters much, but why would you guys put EG below Complexity? I think EG have the potential to do a lot better, especially if they actually replace Snoopeh (rumored to be replaced by Helios soon[sup]TM[/sup]) [/quote] EG is a mess of a team right now, and Complexity has a ton of potential, beyond EG imo. They have a really strong team of independent league players who have been yearning to get into/get back into the LCS scene for ages, and now they've got the shot and they just need to pull themselves together in terms of teamwork. These guys are re-known for their individual skill and it shows. [/quote] Don't forget that EG with their old roster completely STOMPED Complexity and also beat them in their first head to head lcs game. Their head to head in official matches is 4-0 so I still doubt their potential (especially considering Westrice isn't going to improve at all). 3 of their players are unarguably the weakest players for their respective roles (bubbadub, westrice and brokenshard - if you assume snoopeh is going to be replaced soon) [/quote] EG still is worse right now Snoopeh and Krepo are not even that much of an upgrade over complexity jungle or support. At least there young players and young team Alot of players on EG have hit there peak why do you think Froggen left when he did. EG has not impressed me once since coming to na.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]How can they be worse when their head to head is 4/0?[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=Vynertje] [quote=NateDog13] [quote=Wayne3100] Not that it matters much, but why would you guys put EG below Complexity? I think EG have the potential to do a lot better, especially if they actually replace Snoopeh (rumored to be replaced by Helios soon[sup]TM[/sup]) [/quote] EG is a mess of a team right now, and Complexity has a ton of potential, beyond EG imo. They have a really strong team of independent league players who have been yearning to get into/get back into the LCS scene for ages, and now they've got the shot and they just need to pull themselves together in terms of teamwork. These guys are re-known for their individual skill and it shows. [/quote] Don't forget that EG with their old roster completely STOMPED Complexity and also beat them in their first head to head lcs game. Their head to head in official matches is 4-0 so I still doubt their potential (especially considering Westrice isn't going to improve at all). 3 of their players are unarguably the weakest players for their respective roles (bubbadub, westrice and brokenshard - if you assume snoopeh is going to be replaced soon) [/quote] Let's be realistic, these "unarguably" weakest players are only "weakest" because they've got no LCS level experience. It's shown throughout the splits that LCS experience is what separates good teams from the best and the same with the players. Some teams will in fact fall through, and some won't, but I seriously doubt that Complexity isn't going to be able to step their game up as they traverse through the split and continue to gain more experience from these matches, and if they don't then we'll see another Coast, if not none of Complexity's players get picked up at all.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]I agree that Complexity will benefit a lot from actually playing in the LCS now, but I don't see how their potential is beyond EG's. I expect EG to improve a lot after their roster change, especially since Pobelter has graduated and moved into the EG house (less than a week ago). I expect them to improve even more if they replace Snoopeh, too. I'm obviously more than a little biased on this one, but Complexity are the weaker team right now imo and I think it'll stay that way.[/quote]