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Amazing has definitely improved, but he's still not on the level of meteos or any korean jungler. TSM has a lot of individually skilled players, but their team fighting has always been lacking and it got significantly worse after xpecial left. They have a number of issues; first has to be dyrus' consistency, some games he does really well other games he's 0/4 in 10 minutes. Amazing has improved quite a bit and his synergy with bjerg is good but the rest of his play is pretty mediocre. Wildturte is a major issue for TSM, he's so inconsistent and gets caught out way too often, his positioning is terrible; I would even say hes one of the worst ADC's attending worlds. Lustboy is pretty damn good, all in all I don't think TSM matches well to any korean teams just because korean teams generally have such good map movements and team fighting, both of which TSM lacks.
We actually saw Cloud 9 might have bettr map rotations and strategic gameplay than anyone at worlds. The way they exploit the map is so good and just off their map play they almost beat NWS when they had a vastly inferior late game team and a gold deficit
We actually saw Cloud 9 might have bettr map rotations and strategic gameplay than anyone at worlds. The way they exploit the map is so good and just off their map play they almost beat NWS when they had a vastly inferior late game team and a gold deficit

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Mooninites wrote:
Amazing has definitely improved, but he's still not on the level of meteos or any korean jungler. TSM has a lot of individually skilled players, but their team fighting has always been lacking and it got significantly worse after xpecial left. They have a number of issues; first has to be dyrus' consistency, some games he does really well other games he's 0/4 in 10 minutes. Amazing has improved quite a bit and his synergy with bjerg is good but the rest of his play is pretty mediocre. Wildturte is a major issue for TSM, he's so inconsistent and gets caught out way too often, his positioning is terrible; I would even say hes one of the worst ADC's attending worlds. Lustboy is pretty damn good, all in all I don't think TSM matches well to any korean teams just because korean teams generally have such good map movements and team fighting, both of which TSM lacks.
We actually saw Cloud 9 might have bettr map rotations and strategic gameplay than anyone at worlds. The way they exploit the map is so good and just off their map play they almost beat NWS when they had a vastly inferior late game team and a gold deficit
We actually saw Cloud 9 might have bettr map rotations and strategic gameplay than anyone at worlds. The way they exploit the map is so good and just off their map play they almost beat NWS when they had a vastly inferior late game team and a gold deficit
Never said amazing was as good as them i just said his playstyle is more korean thats part reason i dont see tsm beating ssw unless they improved alot in last week. They are pretty much a worse korean team in playstyle.
Good read also wow turtle got destroyed by pretty much everyone in lane diffidently weak link of the team.
The only strong point for tsm was bjergen. Amazing was in middle or average, Dyrus above average.
Good luck to bjergen hope you can carry.
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/the-best-laners-of-worlds-group-stage/1100-2246/
The only strong point for tsm was bjergen. Amazing was in middle or average, Dyrus above average.
Good luck to bjergen hope you can carry.
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/the-best-laners-of-worlds-group-stage/1100-2246/
Cooper112 wrote:
I Will be very surprised if amazing is still on TSM next season....
Please, he has stepped up huge during this tournament and this loses aren't about him. He lost one of his two buffs early on in the second game and got completely shut down - think more about before writing because you could also say "I'm not sure whether every member of TSM will still be on the team next year" ...

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emoriam wrote:
Please, he has stepped up huge during this tournament and this loses aren't about him. He lost one of his two buffs early on in the second game and got completely shut down - think more about before writing because you could also say "I'm not sure whether every member of TSM will still be on the team next year" ...
Its not about his start its about his play and all his mistakes. Sorry i honestly think oddone is better player still.
That being said it's still very unlikely
C9 is to weak early game tho if you dont notice they lose most early games and come back with strategic moves. Thats part of the reason they lost to tsm in playoffs tsm has the strongest early game i feel besides some korean teams.
Problem with tsm and why it will be hard to beat white is that they play like a worse korean team. So only way i see tsm winning is if they get alot lucky **** and someone how alot **** goes there way.
Amazing has changed alot if you compare his early games on tsm in the split to in playoffs he plays alot like a korean jungler now but thats part of problem i see they are good but white does all they do slightly better.