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7.4 Tier List + AMA

Creator: H4xDefender February 20, 2014 5:06pm
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@OTG - morde might be passable if he had any form of CC, but he doesn't so he stays in the garbage bin

brand is a decent cheese support, tossed him into t3.

ezreal does 0 damage vs the super tanks that are around right now, and bluebuild means ur going to get crushed so hard in lane u wont be relevant ever or until very late, in which case ur team carried you and you could be playing any other adc. moved him over MF as he isn't awful, but he is pretty underwhelming overall

ap sion isnt too bad, put him in

lol viktor

le edit: poll added to OP
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Gut feeling cassiopeia? Tier 2 or 3 material?
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literally have seen 2 and it was vman and you, need to hold judgment til i see one more at least
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that was actually a really good assessment. Thanks!
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Problem with her now is they nerfed her ap ratios and base damage way to much. My guess is they thought her passive would be that strong its not....

They buffed in 4.17 tho.
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The thing is that they decided her E should do EVERYTHING: damage, heal, mana regen. Wow nice one. Now **** her other abilities and make her deal as much damage as full support Soraka.
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Yup, totally agree it was a huge mistake to butcher her Noxious Blast damage
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Mooninites wrote:
Yup, totally agree it was a huge mistake to butcher her Noxious Blast damage


"If Riot was looking to put Cassiopeia’s early game into the dumpster…we’d say they put her early game at the bottom of a landfill."

That sentence pretty much sums up her entire rework. Riot decided that Cassio's play style was really toxic because at times she was popular, she was a really dominant champion. I mean does anyone remember the times that Galio was a popular champion just because of Cassiopeia? I sure do.

Anyway, before her "rework" (quotation marks because they didn't actually rework her kit) she was capable of playing in two ways. 1) Siege mode: Max Q, sit back, and poke people from afar. You trade kill potential for safety. 2) Close-combat: Max E, hit Q and close in for the kill. Good kill potential but very risky. Now Cass has no option but to be risky, and that doesn't work well in this meta game. It's one of the big reasons Syndra isn't pick or ban right now as she's still very vulnerable in lane, despite her strengths.

Another thing they did was completely annihilating her damage potential during most stages of the game, which makes her not very rewarding to play. If a team decides to end the laning phase quickly, then Cass is pretty screwed. And even though she gave all this up, her late-game still pales in comparison to the real late-game powerhouses known as Kassadin, Karthus, and Twisted Fate.

If that wasn't enough, her itemisation got awkward as well, because thanks to her passive there's no need to itemise for cool down reduction; something most mages get. Not that an E-oriented play style would need that in the first place. Essentially what they did was strip Cassiopeia of all flexibility in order to give her a late-game no one wanted. Personally I thought Cass needed a mana buff or two and perhaps a functionality change on her E (like why doesn't it reset, why does it get set at 0.5s?).

I also don't like this trend of overcomplicating champions; talking about her passive. Her old passive was fine and had a good thing to it; something for players to look at and play with. Now she just has some kind of overcomplicated **** with lots of stacks because it looks cool or something.
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How strong would you consider Shyvana right now? Which t1 picks would she be good against?

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