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7.4 Tier List + AMA

Creator: H4xDefender February 20, 2014 5:06pm
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utopus wrote:

Against bruisers, yes the shield will likely be enough to keep you alive under most circumstances. If you asked Vapora Dark if a Lux with a Shield is Beefy, he'll likely disagree.

Dude I can't even remember, I haven't played against Lux in yonks lol.
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EDIT: Also, can anyone explain when and why lissandra is a good pick? I like playing her still but I'm not quite sure when she's an appropriate pick


I think she's just good 'cause she has almost instant 100-0 potential with DFG+ult+rest of combo.

Sure it's telegraphed with her E, but it still does a lot of damage.
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She ganks bot lane really hard too. :p
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I feel like that's part of the 100-0 combo. Just a little. :P
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There are a lot of champions that can 100-0. Lissandra has good waveclear but a little on the low side for range. Also I'm pretty sure you can still flash her ult animation, which is a massive problem for her
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Lux literally can't do anything vs more than half the mid lane meta except farm safely. She is bad at roaming, can get all of her abilities flashed, and can get blown up in an instant in a teamfight, no matter how many items she farms for. You rely on the enemy carries getting caught by a random bind to help in teamfights beyond your ultimate. She isn't a strong champion. Personal experience means nothing. I may have slight bias towards more of the tier 2 champions, but every single tier 1 champion is there for a reason, not because I "like" them.

Cho is pretty bad, skillshots all around which means hes bad at catching people out of position, and can't farm up feast when losing. His CC is nice but its unreliable as all hell, and his laning style is very telegraphed, making him easy to beat, even with the sustain he has.

Lissandra is a good roaming AP that has lots of burst and utility, good to pick when u want an AP assassin that has waveclear and is a little safer than fizz.
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I dont like your support list how is janna worse than zilean?


I would say its Nami, Braum, Thresh, Janna, Morg. Then zilean top tier 2.

Also is there reason you rate sona and alistar so low and below annie for god sakes whos not been good or played in support since her nerfs in 4.4 patch.

I would rate them above lulu, annie and vel.
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Cooper112 wrote:
I dont like your support list how is janna worse than zilean?


I would say its Nami, Braum, Thresh, Janna, Morg. Then zilean top tier 2.

Also is there reason you rate sona and alistar so low and below annie for god sakes whos not been good or played in support since her nerfs in 4.4 patch.


I believe I can answer this. Zilean is overall better because of his kit. His time bombs are great forms of poke and can't be dodged without some sort of shield not to mention the insane amount of damage it does later game, his movement speed buff/debuff is great for escaping ganks and catching up to enemies. His ult changes team fights and by late game practically revives people to full health.

Also why would you place Janna in front of Morgana?
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IPodPulse wrote:


I believe I can answer this. Zilean is overall better because of his kit. His time bombs are great forms of poke and can't be dodged without some sort of shield not to mention the insane amount of damage it does later game, his movement speed buff/debuff is great for escaping ganks and catching up to enemies. His ult changes team fights and by late game practically revives people to full health.

Also why would you place Janna in front of Morgana?


I see your point in zilean but argument im trying to make is he is weak early he has high mana costs and weird build paths you ether rush sight stone like normal support but you will run out mana after 4 spells used.

Thats why i feel zilean mid is better he has less mana issues since he has gold to build mana items freely and still giving the ult to the team well having more ap and damage. Support zilean can build ap but he will have less affect to team than supports building mikael's crucible.

Maybe im playing him wrong or have wrong playstyle not sure i dont think zilean is good i tried it few times and just seems odd.

Also i think janna is better for few reasons her with lucian is one strongest lanes in bot atm her e on him he does huge damage that no adc can trade with. On top of that she can protect adc very well with good cc and ult can **** down zed or other assassins just as there coming back into play.
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Any chance you'll re-evaluate ezreal? I tried him again for the first time in a little while and I found him to be pretty good - lots of opportunities to outplay your opponent
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