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AP Mid's block

Creator: Blood26 August 2, 2012 12:45pm
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I call this the AP Mid's block because I have come to a point where landing skillshots with Ahri is absurdly hard.

Previously, I land about 6-8/10 skillshots per game, now my aims are just off the hook, about only 3/10 hits in every game.
I was told that if you have a +10 match record in your game, you start getting what my friend calls the "proper ap mid-ers", meaning to say that, anyone who takes mid aren't to be reckoned lightly.

In my case, I have 281 - 260 at the moment, which probably explains why my skillshots aren't that perfect anymore. A week ago, I was literally dominating every mid laners, almost had no problem Charm, had time to dive in, dive out with Spirit Rush before any junglers came.

This current week, every game seemed to involved me having up to 5 deaths minimum per game, and only about 6-8 kills per game. No longer do I actually have the privilege of earning double, triple, quadra kills and what not. And no 10+ kills anymore.

I tried so many tricks,
    Aiming far off in hopes that my enemies are led to that direction
    Shooting directly because people gauge too much
    Shooting a bit to the left or right

Thing is, I've been told by a friend that, on higher elo-ranked games, 1.5k elo, landing Orb of Deception and Charm is hard, not in sense that you're doing it wrong, but its because your prediction is getting predicted, meaning to say that your opponents are 1 step ahead of you. Funny how even now when a player is rushing to and you charm them while they're completely unaware of it, you can still MISS

I believe myself to be a good Ahri player in my own way, having up to 8 months of experience wiht her, AND ONLY HER. My entire 551 matches revolve around Ahri, 520 if not all. I handle myself fairly well towards players with a win rate of 700, 800 matches in AP mid.

Yet, this week is just, ridiculously discouraging, and I've been thinking of dropping Ahri. Now even skillshot guides don't help.

Just wondering, but does anyone have this problem as well ?

Found this relatively interesting review on skillshots tho, http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/26/the-summoners-guidebook-improving-our-skillshot-dodging-skills/

Now I'm beginning to wonder whether I'm being lead around half of the time, instead of me leading around.

"The lead you, or they shoot directly at you"
-Patrick Mackey

Do share if you guys have any thoughts or advise.
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Good ^^
Now if you keep playing, you're bound to improve!
It's so easy to predict when an Ahri will use her
skill shots. It's just like, if you follow an Ahri
who's running away, 9/10 perhaps, you know she'll
quickly shoot Charm back at you. Thus, you dodge.
Maybe you're still very predictable, without knowing.
Another example is Morgana. It's crazy easy most of the
time, to predict when she's going to shoot her snare
too, when you see she moves to the side of the minion waves,
to a point where she can hit you directly.

I think you're just hitting the wall right now ^^.
Also, I think that you ought to branch out and play
some other champions too. Doesn't matter if it's other
AP mids. Playing a lot of one champ is great and I think
you've played her a lot. But you have to keep in mind, that
since you've had such an easy time, now you're getting challenged.
If you can overcome that, then you'll be a better player for it.
I don't think you should drop Ahri; But if she's your only AP mid
I think you're especially in for a lot of frustration then.
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you're probably playing against better opponents
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Well now you're beginning to catch on to how I can beat people like Brand with Warwick. It doesn't matter how good your skillshot aim is, your opponent can both predict where you're going to use it, or just react and dodge when they see it coming. When someone's good enough at dodging skillshots, there's not much you can do.

I'll tell you how some people manage to give me trouble as a skillshot-based champion though. As you've probably noticed, most players, such as me, walk around from side to side when they're not last-hitting, so as to be a harder target to hit. What these people I mentioned do is, they learn at what exact spots I'm turning around to go the other way, and shoot riiight behind me at the exact same moment I'm turning there. I just simply don't have enough time to point my mouse over to the side and click away again, and the skillshot hits me. It's just impossible to react fast enough to that, without both incredibly good reflexes, and having your mouse pointer set to a high speed. However, I'm referring to skillshots that can be used through minions, such as Orb of Deception. Charm is just a lot harder to land. And the person can easily learn to move in irregular patterns, so again, there's not much you can do about that.
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It is all mind games. You have to know what ur opponent is gonna do.

And this becomes allot harder when you go up against more skilled opponents.

My only tip is to take 0 chances. Only cast when you are 90% sure you are gonna hit. And 90% of the cases if you are sure you will hit, you will land it.

Better to hit 3/3 skill shots than hit 4/10
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ya what moon and pothead said.


still though, only landing 10 skillshots in a game is a bit iffy D:


and what on earth do you mean by a +10 match record???

and what does your w/l ratio have to do with how you can aim skillshots?

IM SO CONFUSED

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I used to be very good at my skill shots as well, and lately I'm having many issues with it, even with Lux.

There were a few games where I swore I hit my Charm (like dead on) but it still didn't latch. Maybe a bug? IDK.

Even before then though, I had some issues. My main ones are over predicting and under predicting. Most of the time I'll toss it out, and it would have hit if some one else didn't cc them already! Like Taric stunning them right before my Charm or Singed tossing. It is more than just skill, it can be team synergy and luck as well.

Maybe you should take a short break, it can help.
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ya what moon and pothead said.


still though, only landing 10 skillshots in a game is a bit iffy D:


and what on earth do you mean by a +10 match record???

and what does your w/l ratio have to do with how you can aim skillshots?

IM SO CONFUSED


I think Garena's method of matchmaking system is a bit different from LoL.
So for example, I have a record of 281 wins and 260 losses.

That means that my match record is actually improving, I have more wins than defeats, hence the +21 gap.
Now, if I maintain my winning streaks, the matchmaking system gets tougher and they'll pair me with higher skill capped opponents, to the point where I see 1.5k of wins ._.

I was assuming that was how the NA LoL's matchmaking system operates as well.
What I know is that your latest patches have balanced out the matchmaking system for a fairer match up.
We have yet to receive that patch yet.
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Is Garen a popular pick in Garena?
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Then Ahri gets banned in ranked. Then what? All your 8 months go to waste.
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