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Cataclysm: Buff maybe?

Creator: Babit July 25, 2011 9:17pm
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I've been playing a good bit of Jarvan lately, while he is a decent champion for sure, I have to say Cataclysm is one of the most useless ults out there.

It will close a gap, do an OK amount of MD (at best), and create an arena around you and selected target.

Unfortunately this normally will hurt you more than help. It's not even comparable to Jax's leap tbh.

1. Enemies can either tele in or out of your "arena" with virtually any gap closing skill.
2. It's so weak. It does hardly any MD, almost comparable to a regular attack tbh. So you end up just being caught in your own arena and still dying. (even 1v1)

I'm not just trying to rant though, I want YOUR ideas on how you think this problem should be addressed. There are several different options IMO.

My ideas.

First and foremost, DON'T LET ENEMIES TELE IN/OUT OF ARENA. I mean what kind of cruel joke is this? 80% of your ult usage is pointless currently. This should be implied PERIOD. Idc if my teammates can or cannot tele in to help. I am willing to sacrifice this. (This would be implemented with any of the following changes.)

1.) Add a stun (maybe also a knock-up for anybody near the outside of arena). This is simply to give Jarvan some kind of decent advantage in the following melee after initiating.

2.) Increase MD and duration of arena.

3.) Increase MD and decrease victims armor

4.) Increase Jarvan's AD and AS for 5 seconds when you cast.

I could probably go on for pages with ideas. I'm not saying Jarvan is UP or anything, his ultimate is just a joke. If nothing else at least drop the tele in/out ********. 9/10 champions have and ability AND flash to do this.

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It's awesome to save allies with.
You can seal enemies inside it, while getting out with banner+spear combo.
Best ganking tool. Ever.
Is great to seal people within turret range with.

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You say seal like everybody cant just gap-closer out...

Even if people could still flash out, abilities shouldn't be able to move you in/out of arena.

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Babit wrote:

You say seal like everybody cant just gap-closer out...

Even if people could still flash out, abilities shouldn't be able to move you in/out of arena.


You have a Q and E. When people teleport out just follow them.

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That's not the point.

I just wasted my ULTIMATE to gap close and do a bit of MD. Now I have to use my only 2 offensive abilities left to.....follow them?...to the rest of their team probably?

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Or, you could just drop the walls. Not that difficult to press R right after you already did IMO...
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Use ultimate to burn their summoners. Come back 1 minute later, repeat, summoners down.

They have an escape spell like Valkyrie? Go for someone who doesn't or make them use it before you ultimate.

His ultimate isn't meant to be used for damage. His ultimate is also one of the best ultimates in the game because it forces people to either burn summoners or get trapped. It also forces initiation and locks teams away from your carries.
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It's fun to get an entire "jump" team and all jump in when he ults. It's a blast forcing a 1v5 at dragon because nobody over there wants to save the doomed ally.
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If they burn their **** to get out of your ult and start retreating, you did it right.

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dat ulti... not op at all D: and if he ultis you and you flash before he hits you, he follows your damn flash >_>


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