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Doran's Shield: Top lane item, or ADC item?

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December 28, 2012 5:15pm
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With the new changes to Doran's Shield, it has become one of my favorite items. Looking at its stats, I started wondering if I could buy it anywhere else than top lane. I thought about trying it on ADC and I realized that it actually fits BETTER on ADCs than on top laners.

Disclaimer:

(Some people were confused about these things when I made a similar thread on solomid and official lol forums)
-I am not talking about starting with a Doran's Shield.
-I am talking about getting a single Doran's Shield along with a single Doran's Blade.


Stat Comparison:



Doran's Blade:
80 HP
10 AD
5 HP per basic attack

Doran's Shield:
100 HP
10 Armor
5 HP per 5
Unique Passive: Blocks 6 damage from champion basic attacks.

Now let's Compare them:



100 HP vs. 80 HP: Simple choice, 100 is often times greater than 80.
Winner: Doran's Shield

5 Armor vs. 10 AD: Very close. Late game, an AD is > an armor, but armor has greater improvements at lower levels of armor. That 5 armor will cancel out a lot of the enemy armor pen. I think the 10 AD is roughly equal to the 5 armor early on.
Winner: Doran's Shield= Doran's Blade

5 HP5 vs. 5 HP per basic attack: The regen is equal if you attack once every five seconds. However, you can and will attack more often than that.
Winner: Doran's Blade

6 less damage from basic attacks vs. NOTHING: The 6 damage reduction is the best part of this item, and the Doran's blade has nothing to compare. Also, bot lane is the place that you will be hit with the most basic attacks. The ADC will do most of their damage from basic attacks, and the support will probably will basic attacking you as well.
Winner: Doran's Blade... I mean... Venusnaur.


So, by getting a Doran's Shield we are trading:



1. 10 AD
2. 5 Life Per attack

For

1. 20 HP
2. 5 armor
3. 5 HP per 5
4. 6 damage reduction from champ basic attacks.

So, according to the numbers, I have decided that Doran's shield is MUCH better than a Doran's Blade in lane phase. However, outside of lane phase, Doran's blade is better. Keep in mind that lane phase is the entire POINT of a Doran's item, though.


When to Buy it:




A. Planning on fighting the enemy lane opponent, or you suspect they will try to fight you.[/color]
B. Against heavy poke from the ADC. (i.e. against Caitlyn, or any lane where you are out-ranged significantly)[/color]
C. Especially against a support like Blitzcrank Leona and Alistar


Who to Buy it on:



A. Caitlyn- She outranges other ADs, so you shouldn't be getting shot too much as her.
B. Graves- Sounds like it would be good on him, but he is so dominant in lane that he doesn't need it. Also, the armor is worth less because of his passive. If you feel you need it, it is still a good buy, but you normally won't.
C. Farm lane: If both lanes are content to sit and farm, there is no need for this item. Graves


With Defense Masteries



If you get the Block and Unyielding masteries, you can get up to 11 Flat damage reduction against champion basic attacks. This makes a massive difference early game.

In order to do this, you can go either go 9-21-0,16-14-0 or 14-16-0. I prefer 14-16-0. (h4xdefender pointed out that you can get it with 13 points in defense, but I just don't see anything worth putting into offense without committing more than 17 points into it.



TL;DR


Doran's Shield is a very strong item for lane phase. If you plan to go double Doran's Blades, you may as well go for one of those, and a Doran's Shield (Unless you are Caitlyn. Also, if you have the right masteries, you can get up to 11 flat damage reduction on champion basic attacks!


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I plan on making a number of similar strategy posts such as:
1. A thread about basic items, and how they can almost be considered consumable items. (This was already posted in theory craft, but that subforum is kinda dead. I also didn't use any of the nifty code here.)

2. Two threads about skill orders on mid laners, and how some of the common ones (mostly on underplayed heroes) are not optimal. There is one for "Max Creep clear" and "Max damage/burst."

3. One ALL about zhonya's <---- That item is my favorite item ever.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by H4xDefender » December 28, 2012 6:12pm | Report
Doran's shield has always been a solid item as an adc or a top lane bruiser to win trades and sustain. Going 17-13-0 (i think thats the minimum to get the block mastery in defense) as an adc and buying 1-2 Dshield's pretty much guarantees you a lane win.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by NicknameMy » December 28, 2012 6:24pm | Report
Doran's Shield passive is unique. I would just combine Doran's Blade with Doran's Shield, should work best. Also, shield has only 5 armor?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Foo18 » December 28, 2012 6:27pm | Report
NicknameMy wrote:

Doran's Shield passive is unique. I would just combine Doran's Blade with Doran's Shield, should work best. Also, shield has only 5 armor?


Yes, that is what I suggested. Getting one of each is what I recommend getting.

And sorry for the mistake on the stats.

I had it right on the other forums I posted this on, but I wanted to retype this one, sorry for the error.

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2 is only for extreme cases where you are getting pooped on bad, i.e. 22 ad draven and the like.
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2 is only for extreme cases where you are getting pooped on bad, i.e. 22 ad draven and the like.


I don't think a second shield is worth it ever. You can buy a Cloth Armor and Ruby Crystal for
3 times the armor
80 more HP
while costing only 300 more.

After you sell them, it will have only costed 233 gold. While Doran's Shield costs 285 after being sold.

For lulz you can also buy a rejuvination beads for all of the stats and better of a double Doran's Shield for a total of 287 after they have all been sold.

Doran's are very cost effective for for 475 gold, but you HAVE to sell them and they sell at very poor rates.

So, yeah I would just get a Cloth Armor, and MAYBE a Ruby Crystal if I needed it.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by A Chubby Baby » December 28, 2012 10:06pm | Report
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by GrandmasterD » December 28, 2012 10:26pm | Report
Foo18 wrote:



I don't think a second shield is worth it ever. You can buy a Cloth Armor and Ruby Crystal for
3 times the armor
80 more HP
while costing only 300 more.

After you sell them, it will have only costed 233 gold. While Doran's Shield costs 285 after being sold.

For lulz you can also buy a rejuvination beads for all of the stats and better of a double Doran's Shield for a total of 287 after they have all been sold.

Doran's are very cost effective for for 475 gold, but you HAVE to sell them and they sell at very poor rates.

So, yeah I would just get a Cloth Armor, and MAYBE a Ruby Crystal if I needed it.


Takes up two slots instead of one.
Isn't obtained as fast.
Doesn't have the shield's unique passive.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Akakakushi » December 29, 2012 12:48am | Report
10 AD equals more efficient last-hitting, the 5 health per attack passive will eventually heal more than your 5 armor rejects. I'd prefer Doran's Blade, a simple choice.
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