Health regen becoming strong in top lane?

[quote=cooper56]As of new preseason i have noticed how good health regen has become. Alot people go Perseverance Second Wind and run health regen quints. Thats why you see alot tanker tops again like mundo becoming so strong as 30 def top. Then you have nasus, renekton and zac any champs with healing became top tier top lane.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[yorick]], [[warwick]], [[trundle]].... Many champs that can heal themself but I don't see them top.[/quote]

[quote=97BligenN]Yorick has extreme mana problems or has to play very passively, warwick becomes next to useless lategame and trundle... yeah idk just not fun xd[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=cooper56] Then you have nasus, renekton and zac any champs with healing became top tier top lane. [/quote] Nasus and Renekton were top tier lanes by the end of season 3 too.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I would rather say that resourceless, beefy champions are the meta right now. Renekton has been top tier because the only 'resource' he has is his own cooldown, allowing him to play super aggressively. If you have a look at the other god tier tops right now, you'll find Shyvana and Mundo who both are resourceless as well (well, mundo uses health but he has great sustain anyway) Nasus got strong (just like mundo) because the game length drastically increased meaning he had more time to stack Q's and get super tanky.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Funny that [[garen]] is also resourcless and beefy, but nobody plays him. He counters for example [[renekton]] or [[riven]], which are both resourcless aswell.[/quote]

[quote=LevasK]NicknameMy-Garen has his own problems.Also he doesn't counter [[Renekton]][/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Of course, garen doesn't see any play because he is worthless late game and the meta has shifted towards late game strong champions. He has also been nerfed into the ground in the past. He doesn't bring anything to a team after lane phase.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Vynertje] I would rather say that resourceless, beefy champions are the meta right now. Renekton has been top tier because the only 'resource' he has is his own cooldown, allowing him to play super aggressively. If you have a look at the other god tier tops right now, you'll find Shyvana and Mundo who both are resourceless as well (well, mundo uses health but he has great sustain anyway) Nasus got strong (just like mundo) because the game length drastically increased meaning he had more time to stack Q's and get super tanky. [/quote] Sure those champions are resourceless, but I think more than anything is they have ridiculously high base damages early on. [[Shyvana]] and [[Renekton]] have always been strong top laners in the early levels. [quote=97BligenN] warwick becomes next to useless lategame [/quote] This is just incorrect. Probably the main reason he isn't played is: he has poor wave clear, intense mana problems, can't 2v1 well, and his early game is pretty weak because he's so dependent on his Q for damage. [[Warwick]] is just better suited for the jungle, but he's also a pretty bad champion right now, but it's certainly not because of a 'useless lategame', his late game is one of the spots that he shines in[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Shyvana isn't as strong early game and mundo isn't either. Both champions need to scale some levels before they can really do anything. Since the top lane meta is all about being tanky, mana becomes a huge restriction. People cannot burst each other in no-time which means you'll need to be able to stay in lane for a extended period of time. If you have mana issues, that is going to be a real problem.[/quote]