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Ideal teammates for Zilean?

Creator: Riggsinator January 24, 2011 9:07am
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I love Zilean + Soraka.

I played that combo for a series of games with a friend and never lost a lane (though I can't carry on Zilean so we did lose some games).

Sometimes we've even had people ragequit at level 3-4.
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a side note about zilean.

many beginners like to harass opponents with bombs constantly, and zone him/her out afterwards while keeping creep wave close to tower.

but against anyone with decent skills this move is stupid. all opponent has to do is run towards their creep wave everytime you bomb him/her, and your bomb will dmg a whole wave of creeps everytime, thereby pushing all the way to your opponent's tower. then they can just call for ganks and its gg for laning
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a side note about zilean.

many beginners like to harass opponents with bombs constantly, and zone him/her out afterwards while keeping creep wave close to tower.

but against anyone with decent skills this move is stupid. all opponent has to do is run towards their creep wave everytime you bomb him/her, and your bomb will dmg a whole wave of creeps everytime, thereby pushing all the way to your opponent's tower. then they can just call for ganks and its gg for laning


Yeah but if they keep running to their creeps, they're in range for a second bomb. They won't do that more than twice before having to recall. Your bombs actually deal significant damage.
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a side note about zilean.

many beginners like to harass opponents with bombs constantly, and zone him/her out afterwards while keeping creep wave close to tower.

but against anyone with decent skills this move is stupid. all opponent has to do is run towards their creep wave everytime you bomb him/her, and your bomb will dmg a whole wave of creeps everytime, thereby pushing all the way to your opponent's tower. then they can just call for ganks and its gg for laning


I've started to do this recently. I've never seen it done before, but it's so incredibly effective I was surprised. This makes the enemies incredibly susceptible to ganks, and in effect Zilean shuts himself down by letting a decent player have the lane pushed. Unfortunately, usually I get paired up with an incompetent lane partner who goes "lolwut" when i tell them to destroy our creeps with zilean's bomb instead of running in circles like a maniac. If only that got Zilean's bombs off.
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nand wrote:

Yeah but if they keep running to their creeps, they're in range for a second bomb. They won't do that more than twice before having to recall. Your bombs actually deal significant damage.


lol no. the bomb doesnt do that much damage if u only get hit twice, especially since if one of your laning members is range you can out harass zilean while he is doing that. and i am not saying go out and get a bomb on you intentionally, just do it when its safe.
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Not sure what Zilean you are playing but people on the enemy team complain to me about my bombs and how they hurt. Did this against the enemy's solo lane (nasus) and kept them a level or 2 under both of us in the lane. We dominated both the lane and killed their jungles twice... <3 wards.
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If you have good runes, then the bombs do too much for them to survive maybe more than 5 bombs.
Unless they are Renekton or Morde or Morg or Taric... well you get the idea.

I got my runes set up so that I can have around 43 ability power at level 1 with a doran's ring. Makes bombs hit quite hard at level 1. If they are a mage/squishy it takes off a large chunk of their health, then at level 2 with rewind you can probably get first blood if they do what you said.
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