Innervating Locket and Sunfire Capes [Aww poor...

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Now, everyone by now knows that Sunfires were nerfed to hell and Locket was removed. "But Taggrin, I dont understand! Sunfires are only GOOD when stacked, and locket was a pointless support-only item!" Oh silly MOBAfire noobs, I beg to differ. First of all, Sunfire stacks were only important for stupid tanks like Garen, Shen, and Rammus. Shen and Rammus have plenty of ways to deal damage other than Sunfires, and [color=yellow]GAREN was supposed to be a melee DPS in the first place!!![/color] I believe the main reason for making sunfire damage unique was to take Garen away from being a stupid tank and making him what he was supposed to be: A MELEE DPS. Sunfires were designed for champs like Udyr, Mordekaiser, and Amumu, who have similar DoTs as skills. One sunfire gives them everything they need. They get a crap load of health, some decent armor, and 40 magic damage per second that only compounds with their awesome AoE skills. Not a nerf to the item. The item works just fine. Its a nerf to the Tanks that abused the metagame and stacked sunfires to give damage to champs that are naturally impossible to kill. On to Innervating Locket. This is an interesting one. Most people didn't consider this item an Offtank item, only a support item. I strongly beg to differ. The day before it was removed, I used it on Udyr just like the Ionia match, and my god i just could not die!!! People are sad and even mad about this, but i think it was entirely warranted. To anyone that saw the Ionia match, you saw how Guardsman Bob's Udyr couldnt die, even against the entire team. Granted, he was fed as hell, but that is irrelevant. I had matches where i had one or two kills, but as soon as i got locket i was SIGNIFICANTLY harder to kill. The Locket on Gragas and Udyr alone was enough for them to nerf it to hell, But the publicized match was too much. Riot knew that everyone would be using Locket Spirits Visage combo, so they had no choice but to get rid of it, because no matter how much they nerfed it, people would be using it, and this took smart decisions out of the question. If you didnt have locket on your gragas, you were weaker than the gragas that DID have locket. It was REQUIRED. That was the issue. No item should be required on any champ. Outside of items like Infinity edge on Tryndamere, but thats an entirely different story. I actually like the patch. Even though it destroyed my new build for Udyr, it gave me really good ideas for a new build. And with the removal of locket, the metagame is FINALLY shifting away from tanks and offtanks. FINALLY. I actually believe that the metagame is shifting towards AP carries. Champs like Anivia and Kassadin are far more common now. We shall see where this patch leads us.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i still say make sunfires have more damage. im good with everything else.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]I agree totally with what Restrictnine said. Though I will miss Innervating Locket its memory shall live for ever. R.I.P [icon=innervating Locket]. I also think Sunfire cape is good on Amumu btw.[/quote]

[quote=Kael312][quote=Restrictnine] No item should be required on any champ. Outside of items like Infinity edge on Tryndamere, but thats an entirely different story.[/quote] how is that different exactly? genuine curiosity here[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Kael312] [quote=Restrictnine] No item should be required on any champ. Outside of items like Infinity edge on Tryndamere, but thats an entirely different story.[/quote] how is that different exactly? genuine curiosity here [/quote] Trynd = THE crit champ. Even if you don't have crit chance items, you're still going to be critting like hell.[/quote]

[quote=Hell_Pet][quote=caucheka] i still say make sunfires have more damage. [/quote] Agreed.[/quote]

[quote=Diesel][quote=Hell_Pet] [quote=caucheka] i still say make sunfires have more damage. [/quote] Agreed. [/quote] Like I said in a different thread: ~Up the Cost of Sunfire ~Double the Damage Make getting one actually worth it.[/quote]

[quote=Hell_Pet][quote=Diesel] [quote=Hell_Pet] [quote=caucheka] i still say make sunfires have more damage. [/quote] Agreed. [/quote] Like I said in a different thread: ~Up the Cost of Sunfire ~Double the Damage Make getting one actually worth it. [/quote]Yeah I totally agree with you 2. I would say make it 60 damage/sec and cost 2.9k.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Well now maybe ppl will stop flaming my playstyle of Garen now :P[/quote]

[quote=Eskimo]Wait didn't they say that removing the locket was just a temporary fix till the figure out how to release it again with something that was more acceptable?[/quote]