Jayce calling it now op with right player

[quote=Acid Reigns]So for the next 3 attacks he gets a 30% AD buff, and an infinite AS buff. That seems just a TEENY bit op to me. -.-[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]not really, if you play right draven (an ad carry, who should have more damage than jayce) can get quite a few hits with 85% increased damage. of course no as boost but still.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]Yeah, Draven gets his 85% increase in damage, but assuming Jayce has at the most 1.0AS at level 18, he gets a 150% damage increase, PLUS the 30% into his AD, and also he doesn't have to run around catching axes. Sure it's only 3 attacks, but that's 3 attacks from someone who could literally build full AD + crit. Imagine he simply builds an IE, Youmuu, Atmoggs, Boots, and a Bloodthirster, then gets a green pot. He's gonna have around 350 AD with that, and a 66% crit chance. Within those 3 attacks (or a mere 1.2 seconds) that's 2170 damage, and then he has melee/Youmuu to keep him going after that. Hell if we wanted to, he could go full glass cannon, and build IE, Youmuu, Boots, and 3 Bloodthirsters. If even one of his hits crit(he has a 48% chance still) then that's 2346 damage, or 3162 if 2 hits crit, which isn't an entirely unreasonable scenario. I don't really agree that anyone should be able to do THAT much damage in just over a second. EDIT: Actually, nevermind, it's much more than that, I didn't even calculate in the 30% AD buff he gets.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=Acid Reigns] So for the next 3 attacks he gets a 30% AD buff, and an infinite AS buff. That seems just a TEENY bit op to me. -.- [/quote] It's just the next 3 auto attacks, he needs a significant amount of bonus AD for it to really do much, and by doing so he sacrifices his tanky qualities. Typical bruiser dilemma. Going glass cannon on him would be stupid.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]and as draven i can crit q for over 1k damage, whats your point? building jayce as a ad carry is just retarded, he would melt way too quickly (as melee form is supposed to be tank pretty much) look at it this way, in 1.2 seconds he hits you for 390% of his ad. it also takes 4.8 seconds after that for it to recharge (if you don't have any cdr) and a frozen heart will wreck this skill.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]Cept he also has a ranged AA.. I build glass cannon on Kayle all the time, and it stomps. A lot of bruisers build on hit like Wits End, and Bloodrazer, but this would be silly on Jayce, because basically every on hit item also gives a lot of AS, which Jayce gets a free cap on. Instead, he can build kinda tanky like other bruisers, only instead of on hit to go with it, building AD.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]@Cauch I did say Atmoggs, that's enough to keep him from being instagibbed. 390% IF he doesn't crit. Every time he DOES crit, add an extra 160% to that figure, up to a cap of 870% Also, it's only on a 4.8 sec CD??? A Youmuu would justify a triforce on him. -.-[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]by 4.8 seconds, i mean its 6 seconds base, but im pretty sure now that it doesnt start ticking down till after all 3 shots have been fired. if it started ticking after you cast it, it would be 4.8 seconds after all 3 shots fired (if you fired them all at once as fast as you can.) and i already counted the 30% bonus, so if he did crit on all 3, that would be 780%.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]Oh oki, that sounds more right. And no, 390% was from the skill, and the 160% comes from crit + IE + Mastery. 160 X 3 = 480 and 480 + 390 = 870[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]not counting ie of course (if you had it for some reason) which gives another 195%, up to 975% of his ad.[/quote]