Let's get something straight here.

[quote=Dirty Goolash][quote=Restrictnine] Well, TBH, all the top ten guides are from people that are the original people on this site, before there was a billion of every guide. I consider myself a pretty successful [and lucky] build maker, and im not even close to the top ten. I think Nowadays successful guides should be more based off of the first page instead of top ten. Because almost no guides break the top ten now. The rune guide is an exception because no one has ever done anything like it. So there is no reason to downvote it, meaning it ROFLstomps all other guides in rating. [/quote] Not true at all. I'm not trying to be rude, but that isn't even true. Most of the original people on this site are Vets, and how many Vet guides do you see in the Top Rated? Especially the highest rated? Other than the few made in April, most of those guides were made after the highest guides were established. i mean, look at Apotheosis' guide. Made in June. This site started way before that, and by that time the new voting system was established. His and the Kass guide are perfect examples. They had to fight the other guides and made it to the Top Rated because they were so good.[/quote]

[quote=PFP]I'd have to stand by my saying that if you buy a Phantom Dancer, you are wasting your money. No, I don't think I know best and I'm not mad I'm not a top-rated build I can care less as long as people are finding use in mine.. I just feel unless you have the carry-hard power and will to get 2 Phantom Dancers (if you have that much gold you should've ended the game by now) it isn't worth it and I made this thread to share that opinion with others so they can improve their gameplay or whatever you wanna call it. And Dirty a question for you: Have you ever played my tanky ww build before? Or do you just downvote it without actually trying it? And if you play purely for fun then my opinion shouldn't matter to anybody and no one should be getting butt hurt over it. I play mostly for fun, but I'm also the kind of person that after I get decent or good at something I like it to be competitive. Pubsmacking gets boring for me, yes I used to run Master Yi at summoner level 5 with 2 PD's, a bloodthirster, and malady. Anyway my TF build is very much a pubsmack build and has absolutely no viability in ranked, but now I'd like to only post builds usable in ranked play.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]I wrote a huge post, and accidentally pressed the back button. so fuck it. most top guides were made before september. september to now, all guides have one hell of a time getting that high. the top ten is rock solid, there is no denying it. but guides like nespabo's rammus killer guide doesnt deserve to be on the first page of the top guides. it isnt even a complete build. look at his description. it is less than 10 lines! i dont care how good a build is, the guide is not good if the description is not there. but because he was one of the earlier guides, [in march] his guide is one of the best. /rage[/quote]

[quote=panagia]Guys i really dont care about pubsmack builds (as you guys call them). I started playing ranked about 2 weeeks ago and i want to improve . At least 50% of the top rated builds (builds with 70% and more) Are useless pubsmack staff with some usefull info that most of the times guys who , (like me) want to improve, already know. Anyway my suggestion is to get a new section with ranked builds with screenshots from high elo (dont know what elo means ^^) players. I mean , guys , i really dont want to waste my time looking at half of those builds. Btw tanky ww works very well , i dont play ww but i faced it many times. About pd. Yea yommus gives much better stats WHEN is used.A player who clicks his buttons will have no reason of getting pd over yommu. The only way i can think of it being more usefull then yummu is for dps vs dps . As the dodge makes a big difrense at that case. REAlly bored of posts from public players... Hope to see a new section in this sight soon .One last thing ap yi works ! try it and them speak mr public. Ooooo .... i talk too much . cy[/quote]

[quote=PFP]Lol yeah I feel you panagia. I was about to make an AP Yi guide (I've played him alot), but I got sidetracked and made an Ashe build (just finished today) and am now working on an Ezreal build.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]The problem with MOBA is that it is a largely recreational play site. most don't usually play ranked, and as a result, dont see the use in most of the guides. for example, the flaming shen guide? is just a sunfire cape guide, and up until a week or two ago, it was the best shen guide. it sucks for ranked. no one would ever be stupid enough to run full sunfires in ranked unless they are low elo.[/quote]

[quote=panagia]The problem with public players is not their luck of knowledge . The problem is that they are sure that they know although all they have faced is other public players . How can someone low ranked be so sure about what is good and bad in the game ? I mean i used to play 6 years dota and i was part of the pro greek dota community , and although my knowledge was respectable i wouldnt be absolute about almost anything.How can pub players always seem so absolute ? That seems so low of them. Fail sociaty i guess . Cy[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Ultra bump: [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6SQ_RYg274] Nuff said.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]haha. nice vid.[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]So Irelia any good?[/quote]