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Let's get something straight here.

Creator: PFP October 27, 2010 7:35pm
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I think he's just jealous that his build isn't one of the Top Rated.
Most likely because he doesn't use Phantom Dancer.
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Some 1 that think he knows best. i think sunfire wuld be core item for every one... ohh wait it already is :o


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Phantom Dancer is pretty situational, but in all sense and purposes, is not a bad item. It's just terrible on certain characters.
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I think he's just jealous that his build isn't one of the Top Rated.
Most likely because he doesn't use Phantom Dancer.

Actually.... his guide IS in the top ten. lol.
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That doesn't give him the need to be arrogant. Many peoples builds have been on the top 10.

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o.0 Way to make me feel not special. Lol kidding. PFP is a good builder, just maybe a tad bit opinionated. Thank god this isn't a politics website. ::sigh of relief:: Although I agree that this is somewhat of a Flame thread, I thoroughly enjoy arguing my tank warwick and reading the pointless "you're wrong" "no you're wrong" posts. Makes me laugh. KEEP GOING.
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Actually.... his guide IS in the top ten. lol.

Definately NOT in the top ten. Did you even look?
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Oh my bad i thought you meant top ten of the month. Whoops. Well, TBH, all the top ten guides are from people that are the original people on this site, before there was a billion of every guide. I consider myself a pretty successful [and lucky] build maker, and im not even close to the top ten. I think Nowadays successful guides should be more based off of the first page instead of top ten. Because almost no guides break the top ten now. The rune guide is an exception because no one has ever done anything like it. So there is no reason to downvote it, meaning it ROFLstomps all other guides in rating.

For new champs, being the first guide is almost everything. Sooooo many poor guides are the top guides just because they were the first ones. I wont name any, because that is rude. Guides today have to be absolutely stellar to be the top guide of its kind. And even then, I seriously doubt there will ever be another guide that does as well as Apo's guide. Not just in ratings, but in votes as well. Every one knows who Apotheosis is. A lot less people know who Searz is. Thats the difference between a very good guide and a great guide. sortof. lol. idk why my point is anymore. TANGENT FTW. oh ya.

My point is, having an opinion is okay. This may be a flame thread, but it still sparks a great in depth conversation of PD, and is fun as hell to read. PFP is a good guide builder, just a little... shall we say, biased? lol. He knows how he likes his champs. Same here. I think Offtank is the only way to build Udyr, with the metagame right now. Same with tank warwick, to be totally honest. Warwick was never really a carry in the first place, so why not give him more tanking ability while at the same time giving more kills to the ACTUAL carries? for example. i built all tank items except madreds bloodrazor, and i went 2/5/20 for a win. Not good for warwick? i think it is. he gets good gold, while at the same time lets his carries get what they need: kills. If you play, say, CARRY warwick, like DEWO's guide, that is tailored more towards getting kills. And it works. Obviously. Like i said. All preference. Btw, my bad for not understanding you Dirty. I'm fairly new to being involved in the MOBA community, so I consider top ten to be considering the top ten of the month instead of all time lol.


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Well back to the Phantom Dancer rail or whatever:
Does getting a Phantom Dancer simply mean you're bad? It's not like we haven't won games with a Phantom Dancer before, it's not like the moment you get a Phantom Dancer it's GG for yourself. If you have the opportunity, I say go for it, it's availible so why not? Don't see how it's too bad of an item and I don't see how it should be overglorified either, it's just another item.

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It's fairly balanced IMO. You get what you pay for.
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