Mooninites' Ranked 3v3 Tier List and Discussion

[quote=Mooninites]Figured I'd do this for 3v3 incase anyone is interested. Working on a guide for AP bot lane 3v3 at the moment but isn't ready. Also probably going to stream and make video guides once I finish my new computer [b]The meta:[/b] There are several different playstyles that people run, the most common are (in no particular order); 1. AP bot, jungle, bruiser top 2. Support and ADC top, AP bot (support or AP takes smite) 3. Support and bruiser top, AP bot [b]Solo Top Bruiser:[/b] Tier 1: [[Darius]], [[Renekton]] [[Illaoi]], [[Olaf]], [[Trundle]] Tier 2: [[Fiora]], [[Pantheon]], [[Garen]], [[Jax]], [[Gnar]], [[Riven]] Tier 3: [[Wukong]], [[Shyvana]], [[Malphite]], [[Jarvan]], [[Jayce]] [b]AP Bot:[/b] God Tier: [[Anivia]], [[Brand]] Tier 1: [[Lulu]], [[Morgana]], [[Malzahar]] Tier 2: [[Lissandra]], [[Karma]], [[Zilean]], [[Lux]], [[Annie]], [[Azir]], [[Ahri]] Tier 3: [[Orianna]], [[Cassiopeia]], [[Syndra]], [[Vel'koz]], [[leblanc]], [[cho'gath]], [[galio]], [[viktor]], [[Ryze]] [b]Jungler:[/b] Poppy Tier: [[Poppy]] God Tier: [[Tahm Kench]] Tier 1: [[Elise]], [[Maokai]], [[Gragas]], [[Olaf]], [[Dr. Mundo]] Tier 2: [[Graves]], [[Kindred]], [[Skarner]], [[Rek'sai]], [[Zac]] Tier 3: [[Jarvan]], [[Wukong]] , [[Malphite]], [[Lee Sin]], [[Kha'zix]], [[Xin Zhao]] [b]ADC:[/b] Tier 1: [[Kalista]], [[Lucian]] Tier 2: [[Tristana]], [[Vayne]], [[Quinn]], [[Graves]], [[Miss Fortune]] Tier 3: [[Sivir]], [[Caitlyn]], [[Ezreal]], [[Draven]] [b]Support:[/b] God Tier: [[Tahm Kench]], [[Poppy]] Tier 1: [[Maokai]], [[Braum]], [[Nautilus]] Tier 2: [[Leona]], [[Lulu]], [[Morgana]] Tier 3: [[Taric]], [[Alistar]], [[Shen]], [[Rammus]], [[Gragas]] Tier Explanation: Poppy Tier: Champion is literally to the point it needs to be disabled for how gamebreaking it is God Tier: broken, universally best at their role almost guaranteeing victory Tier 1: Pretty much always good, not many or no bad match-ups, always useful Tier 2: Very good but a few flaws that prevent it from always being a good pick Tier 3: Viable, but often niche. Some key flaws that keep it from being always a good pick I may have forgotten a few picks, ask me and I'll add them if they're worth adding. I wanted to keep this tier list short so people can get an idea of what is strong.[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN]How come [[dr. mundo]] be a tier 1 jungler but not even deserving a mention in top lane? He can effectively 1 v 2 halfway through the game and he has very good damage output. If you bring [[exhaust]] on him, it's pretty much impossible to kill him 1 v 1. As I side note, me and my friends usually go with a full tank comp and ban [[vayne]]. It is hilarious.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]ya he's probably worth mentioning in top lane but I think he just has a lot more potential in the jungle. Full tank comps really aren't that great especially considering you can run an AD comp and there are a lot of mages that can shred tanks. [[Brand]] will absolutely shred a full tank comp[/quote]

[quote=Zetrick]I don't play much 3v3, is Rengar really bad for it?[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]Yes, generally really bad. You can cheese with him, but there are too many bruisers on the map that his assassinating skils are generally pretty lacking and he isn't tanky enough to survive a prolonged team fight. Because the map is so short and the lanes are really short (remember they moved towers up) it makes it incredibly difficult for him to successfully ult. There are a lot of bushes he can utilize, but I would consider him bottom tier[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]*updated 1/2/2016* Moved [[Renekton]] and [[Darius]] up to God tier for Solo Top Bruiser, from Tier 1 - honestly these champions just dominate every other pick throughout the laning phase. There is legitimately no champion that can handle their laning phase. I hesitate to put them in God Tier because I don't think they guarantee victory and [[Darius]] can be easily kited, but since they are so much better than any other picks in top lane I feel the belong in that tier Moved [[Poppy]] to God tier for Jungle, previously unranked - She's probably the most broken champion on the map right now, there are so many walls that she has a 100% guaranteed stun. Her damage is disgusting and she's tanky as fuck. Riot basically took everything that was broken about old [[poppy]] and smoothed out the laning phase and made her more consistent and less clunky. She might be the most broken champion in the game right now, even more broken than [[Tahm Kench]] Moved [[Zilean]] to Tier 3 for AP Mid, previously unranked - His laning phase isn't as bad as I initially thought, he has nice wave clear and doesn't have the mana problems I thought he would have. After 15 minutes you pretty much auto win the game because he makes fights so lopsided with his ultimate. His bomb damage is incredibly high and the stun is really strong. He might move up even more than this, seems a lot of people are catching on to the [[Zilean]] pick, but didn't want a knee-jerk reaction to his popularity growing/success Moved [[Lissandra]] up in Tier 2, previously lower in Tier 2 - Her range is an issue, but I drastically underestimated the plays she can make across the map. She sets up ganks and locks down opponents so easily. She has a good deal of flexibility even if her damage falls off a bit. Most AP's can't keep up with her roam. She's one of the only AP's besides [[Rumble]] that has true initiation power and has a much smoother laning phase and early game, she's also not as reliant on her ultimate as [[rumble]] is. She might even be tier 1[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Thoughts on [[kindred]] ADC[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]She's better served in the jungle. When you run an ADC you want to pressure top lane and push towers really fast or run a really strong hypercarry. Kindred can be that hypercarry but she's not like [[vayne]] or [[kalista]], she needs stacks. You'd be better off just running her in the jungle and running a strong bruiser and AP bot to help her invade. I guess we could try it, but tbh my team doesn't really run the support meta so it wouldn't be a good representation of how viable it is. We run the bruiser top, jungle, ap bot meta and most people until you reach high Diamond+ run that meta[/quote]

[quote=FatelBlade]How do you feel about having an amazing shotcaller on the team? Do they serve a greater purpose than on Summoner's Rift because of the importance of team play? Would you also rank the best shotcallers you know?[/quote]

[quote=Taco limeyjr]yea moon is right about zilean jungle[/quote]