New Black Cleaver and Randuin's Omen

[quote=Embracing]Varus's and Garen's issues aren't in item builds :o[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Embracing]Varus's and Garen's issues aren't in item builds :o[/quote] Right on the money.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I gave the reason why you should play [[varus]] earlier, but who cares, nobody reads it anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]You don't land max damage arrows on people as Varus, it's really just not done. And I mean UOL could POSSIBLYk do it except last time I looked PowerOfEvil was playing AP Kogmaw mid. And AP Kogmaw absolutely shreds tanks.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, [[kog'maw]] has already near permaban status for UoL, which might be a reason that you need a secondary similar pick. [[varus]] also has over [[kog'maw]] that he can initate, while still dealing nearly as much damage if you are good enough to hit your skills.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]A secondary similar pick would probably be something like [[xerath]] or [[ziggs]] rather than [[varus]], lol.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Yeah, [[xerath]] is very similar, but as ADC, [[varus]] is way better at destroying tanks and his initiation is stronger than [[xerath]]'s. The mechanics of both are also very similar.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Lol I would MUCH rather Randuin's increased the enemy's attack speed by 15% than dropped mine by the same amount as an ADC.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=NicknameMy]I gave the reason why you should play [[varus]] earlier, but who cares, nobody reads it anyway.[/quote] We read it, you just often ignore context and only appreciate theoretical end results.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri]It seems like the [[randuin's omen]] change is designed to help fighter/bruiser types. When I read the changes, I kept thinking of [[rek'sai]]. It gives him some survivability while slowing enemies so they won't get away and some extra attack speed to help him burst enemies down. I won't miss [[randuin's omen]] on my tanks, because it wasn't in my tank builds to begin with. It's nice that Riot is giving melee players who dive a good item - [[rek'sai]], [[jarvan iv]], [[vi]], [[lee sin]], [[wukong]] and the like should be very happy.[/quote]