The people I see playing Udyr are trying to play him as a glass cannon DPS and getting shut down hard, because Udyr is much better as a tanky DPS.
Triforce is core and none of them buy that.
Atmog's isn't core but is really good and none of them buy that either.
And WTF is with getting Berserker's Greaves? They're not that good on Udyr...
Triforce is core and none of them buy that.
Atmog's isn't core but is really good and none of them buy that either.
And WTF is with getting Berserker's Greaves? They're not that good on Udyr...
Apparently Berserker's > Merc's, Nameless. No matter what you and I think, pros get Zerk's, so everyone else should too.
Also. If people are going to request reviews from me, they should be pleasant when they respond. Because if I get another response like the one I got from Summoner, I will shut down the review thread.
Just saying.
Also. If people are going to request reviews from me, they should be pleasant when they respond. Because if I get another response like the one I got from Summoner, I will shut down the review thread.
Just saying.
Orly? I just see a bunch of Udyr's getting their ***es handed to them because they have no CC reduction. And just because a pro does it doesn't mean it's better (or even core). People should start thinking for their damn selves...pros are great and all, but you kno what, **** THAT. I'm so tired of people jumping on bandwagons...
EXAMPLE: maybe pros build support Soraka with little to no AP but I get good stats with AP Soraka and that's all that matters.
I wasn't gonna comment or vote on his guide, but his reaction to your constructive criticism pissed me off, because tbh his guide is only OK imo and the itemization is completely unoriginal. So I gave him some constructive criticism of my own and am hoping he doesn't downvote my guide in revenge...
EXAMPLE: maybe pros build support Soraka with little to no AP but I get good stats with AP Soraka and that's all that matters.
I wasn't gonna comment or vote on his guide, but his reaction to your constructive criticism pissed me off, because tbh his guide is only OK imo and the itemization is completely unoriginal. So I gave him some constructive criticism of my own and am hoping he doesn't downvote my guide in revenge...
If he does revenge downvote, I'll upvote to displace it.
Also, if you compare the comment I gave to you and the comment I gave to him - I really dug into your guide, and yet you were really civil in your response. Thank you for being pleasant even though I didn't shower your guide with praise.
Edit: Also, I agree - the guide isn't the best I've seen. Sure, he has a decent gameplay section, but the guide is really lacking in alternative items. Does it really deserve 3 Recommendations? o.O
Also, if you compare the comment I gave to you and the comment I gave to him - I really dug into your guide, and yet you were really civil in your response. Thank you for being pleasant even though I didn't shower your guide with praise.
Edit: Also, I agree - the guide isn't the best I've seen. Sure, he has a decent gameplay section, but the guide is really lacking in alternative items. Does it really deserve 3 Recommendations? o.O
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And I even made changes based on your comment ^.^
Besides I'm used to people being rude about my AP Soraka guide.
The think reaction to criticism should have some say in whether a guide gets a recommendation or not...people's opinions matter and a good guide writer will take them with grace or even change their guide based on them.
Besides I'm used to people being rude about my AP Soraka guide.
The think reaction to criticism should have some say in whether a guide gets a recommendation or not...people's opinions matter and a good guide writer will take them with grace or even change their guide based on them.
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I think reaction to criticism should have some say in whether a guide gets a recommendation or not...people's opinions matter and a good guide writer will take them with grace or even change their guide based on them.
I've already +rep'd you today, so I can't again. Will have to wait 24hrs :P I whole-heartedly agree with you. I really like seeing guides that change their build/layout/format/information to reflect feedback from the community.
I really hate seeing guides that have stayed the same since it's release.
^^This is exactly why my Soraka guide no longer has an archangel staff in the core build. As good as it can be on Soraka, it's not core and should have been a situational item from the start.
TBH you don't absolutely need merc treads on Udyr. You can go Guardsman Bob's 3minute Philo jungle Udyr route and upgrade it to Mecurial Stone or whatever it is called and get the same CC reduction you would from Mercs (I believe). The MR is negligible merc treads are a solid item but since the change from "CC Reduction" now being called "Tenacity" and appearing on 2 or 3 maybe 4 items there is a slightly wider option.
Am I saying that Merc treads aren't good on Udyr? No they're great but Zerker greaves aren't a total loss imo. Depends on the game, depends on the player.
Am I saying that Merc treads aren't good on Udyr? No they're great but Zerker greaves aren't a total loss imo. Depends on the game, depends on the player.
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