PBE update 3/6: draven and nidalee and renek skins

[quote=Werepirelord]I think they said "Ranged characters normally don't have MR/lvl", which is horrible IMO since I loved playing her on AD so I think they shouöd just add some additional MR when you use her [[Aspect of the Cougar]][/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]There were a number of reasons they nerfed [[Nidalee]], first reason is that she's an incredibly safe pick. Picking her mid lane was difficult to beat, she could sit back and farm and after level 6 she was ungankable, however this is still true. Basically Riot wanted to make it so that if you catch [[Nidalee]] you can easily kill her because she is so difficult to catch. For that reason, they removed the flat armor and mr on [[Aspect of the Cougar]] and MR/lvl. However, I feel like they missed the mark quite a bit. They are attempting to nerf AP Nidalee which is already squishy, the armor and mr were minimal at best and never really saved you. Additionally, they are trying to incentivise people going in and doing damage with cougar form, which is absolutely absurd. It was just a couple months ago that they buffed her Armor and MR in cougar form from a flat 10 at all ranks to 10/20/30 to incentivise people going in with cougar form. It's incredibly difficult to sacrifice tankiness for damage especially on a melee champion (I know she has a ranged component but I'm talking about her in cougar form). It almost never works. People already sat back and chucked spears because she was so squishy. I really question riot's understanding of the game if they think trading off 78 mr at level 18 and 30 armor for an increase in [[Swipe]] ratio from .4 to .6 is going to make people want to run in with cougar form. Other issues I have is that she has an incredibly weak early game, I can only think of 4 champions in the game that have a weaker level 1-5 ([[poppy]],[[tryndamere]],[[mordekaiser]], and [[xerath]]). The payoff for such a terrible early game is that she got a massive powerspike at level 6 with cougar form. Another thing is that this is more of a nerf to bruiser Nidalee than AP. Regardless if they remove armor and MR from AP Nidalee she will continue to chuck spears from afar, bruiser Nidalee on the other hand, which relies on her cougar form to trade, gets a pretty huge nerf. But the main issue I have is that both [[Jayce]] and [[Elise]] get their forms at level 1 AND they get flat armor and mr for each rank. It's kind of a logistical fail for them to exist with armor/mr for each rank and Nidalee to not, especially when they all fill similar roles. [[Jayce]] and [[Nidalee]] are more similar than [[Elise]] is to any of them, but there is no doubt all of them have fairly similar gameplay styles. I cannot comprehend how the other two can exist in their state while Nidalee could not in hers. I actually go over this is my last two blog posts and at the bottom under the "Changelog" section of my [[Nidalee]] guide shameless plugs :P[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]for now i'm happy that [[Leblanc]]'s [[Mimic]] will not undergo that change. there is no actual reason to max any other skill than Q. I still think where she needs help might be in her utility, including her passive, bc even carrying can be hard for LB.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Pheyniex] for now i'm happy that [[Leblanc]]'s [[Mimic]] will not undergo that change. there is no actual reason to max any other skill than Q. I still think where she needs help might be in her utility, including her passive, bc even carrying can be hard for LB. [/quote] Even if her [[Mimic]] was different, and probably after the change, people will still max [[Sigil of Silence]]. It's her main damage source on a burst mage assassin, I don't think anything will change[/quote]

[quote=Stealthwolf667]Well, I'm pretty sure Riot screwed themselves with Draven. They won't be making anymore money on his skins because his soul reaver skin is just too great.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]soul reaver draven is terrible, id rather keep the original skin than that crap[/quote]

[quote=Xiron][quote=Bellpepper] The draven skin just looks awful in my opinion. Nidalee looks pretty nice though. [/quote] I agree.[/quote]

[quote=Kuukai85][quote=CantaGallo] free draven skin for us :D thank you riot good job :D deal with it guys :D and at 23 march there will be also the live tournament in Rome where paying the ticket they will gift us a teemo hat, a tons of damage bracelet,a trinity force keychain, a skin in the game and a rp card. LOVE ITALIA [/quote] OMG where?[/quote]

[quote=IAmByakuya][quote=Mooninites] There were a number of reasons they nerfed [[Nidalee]], first reason is that she's an incredibly safe pick. Picking her mid lane was difficult to beat, she could sit back and farm and after level 6 she was ungankable, however this is still true. Basically Riot wanted to make it so that if you catch [[Nidalee]] you can easily kill her because she is so difficult to catch. For that reason, they removed the flat armor and mr on [[Aspect of the Cougar]] and MR/lvl. However, I feel like they missed the mark quite a bit. They are attempting to nerf AP Nidalee which is already squishy, the armor and mr were minimal at best and never really saved you. Additionally, they are trying to incentivise people going in and doing damage with cougar form, which is absolutely absurd. It was just a couple months ago that they buffed her Armor and MR in cougar form from a flat 10 at all ranks to 10/20/30 to incentivise people going in with cougar form. It's incredibly difficult to sacrifice tankiness for damage especially on a melee champion (I know she has a ranged component but I'm talking about her in cougar form). It almost never works. People already sat back and chucked spears because she was so squishy. I really question riot's understanding of the game if they think trading off 78 mr at level 18 and 30 armor for an increase in [[Swipe]] ratio from .4 to .6 is going to make people want to run in with cougar form. Other issues I have is that she has an incredibly weak early game, I can only think of 4 champions in the game that have a weaker level 1-5 ([[poppy]],[[tryndamere]],[[mordekaiser]], and [[xerath]]). The payoff for such a terrible early game is that she got a massive powerspike at level 6 with cougar form. Another thing is that this is more of a nerf to bruiser Nidalee than AP. Regardless if they remove armor and MR from AP Nidalee she will continue to chuck spears from afar, bruiser Nidalee on the other hand, which relies on her cougar form to trade, gets a pretty huge nerf. But the main issue I have is that both [[Jayce]] and [[Elise]] get their forms at level 1 AND they get flat armor and mr for each rank. It's kind of a logistical fail for them to exist with armor/mr for each rank and Nidalee to not, especially when they all fill similar roles. [[Jayce]] and [[Nidalee]] are more similar than [[Elise]] is to any of them, but there is no doubt all of them have fairly similar gameplay styles. I cannot comprehend how the other two can exist in their state while Nidalee could not in hers. I actually go over this is my last two blog posts and at the bottom under the "Changelog" section of my [[Nidalee]] guide shameless plugs :P [/quote] 100% agree with this and draven skin thing :P[/quote]