Possible Hecarim patch notes

[quote=TheOtherWiggan]Does it say anywhere the percentage of movement speed that converts to AD yet? Am I just overlooking it somewhere or has it not been released yet?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]It scales up to about 25% at level 18. 2.5% per level if I remember right.[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]yay Kayle buff[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=caucheka] did you hear what they said? you only lose 15 damage at 3k health. nerf isnt that bad at all, in fact its still incredibly good for its price. [/quote] Its quite big hit actually im gonna consider skipping it. Huge mundo/ wukong/ olaf nerf! 80 AD from 4K HP so now take of 15 dmg. Thats now only 65 dmg. I might as well just get a The Bloodthirster at this point it gives good defensiveness just from life steal even as tanky dps. Considering the bt buff also that you lose half your stacks now. Also frozen mallet now less viable you will need warmog's just to get a decent amount of hp for it and riot is not telling more tanky dps you must build warmog's.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] did you hear what they said? you only lose 15 damage at 3k health. nerf isnt that bad at all, in fact its still incredibly good for its price. [/quote] Its quite big hit actually im gonna consider skipping it. Huge mundo/ wukong/ olaf nerf! 80 AD from 4K HP so now take of 15 dmg. Thats now only 65 dmg. I might as well just get a The Bloodthirster at this point it gives good defensiveness just from life steal even as tanky dps. Considering the bt buff also that you lose half your stacks now. Also frozen mallet now less viable you will need warmog's just to get a decent amount of hp for it and riot is not telling more tanky dps you must build warmog's. [/quote] They might as well have them scale up that way. If you're getting Atma's, Warmogs and FroMal, you're really weak until you get that all build up to full. Even then, you're not that strong unless you synergies real well with AD(most brusers do but, w/e) and you don't have any MR really so someone like LB, Cass or Kass can come in and combo you from full to nothing. If you're going to get BT, you have to be really wary of CC as completely destroys your so-called "survivability" that you have from it.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] did you hear what they said? you only lose 15 damage at 3k health. nerf isnt that bad at all, in fact its still incredibly good for its price. [/quote] Its quite big hit actually im gonna consider skipping it. Huge mundo/ wukong/ olaf nerf! 80 AD from 4K HP so now take of 15 dmg. Thats now only 65 dmg. I might as well just get a The Bloodthirster at this point it gives good defensiveness just from life steal even as tanky dps. Considering the bt buff also that you lose half your stacks now. Also frozen mallet now less viable you will need warmog's just to get a decent amount of hp for it and riot is not telling more tanky dps you must build warmog's. [/quote] They might as well have them scale up that way. If you're getting Atma's, Warmogs and FroMal, you're really weak until you get that all build up to full. Even then, you're not that strong unless you synergies real well with AD(most brusers do but, w/e) and you don't have any MR really so someone like LB, Cass or Kass can come in and combo you from full to nothing. If you're going to get BT, you have to be really wary of CC as completely destroys your so-called "survivability" that you have from it. [/quote] Eh as tanky is it not your job or off tank to take most dmg? An ignite on you is an ignite not on any one else on your team like ad carry with bt. As for losing dmg yes you wont have much dmg until you get your impaler done thats why i usually dont rush warmog's or frozen mallet. What i do is get giant something like wiggles then go giant belt then impaler that way ill have some dmg well i wait and build hp later but the down side to this is you wont be able to tank turret or dive easily which is one main things i like about alot of hp.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]If they're igniting a tank, it's because it's someone like Mundo. If they're igniting an off tank, it's because they have sustain from skills(Renekton/Hecarim) or the enemy team has a great healer like Soraka.[/quote]

[quote=ShadowDogs]Why nerf Atma's Impaler? It's not that OP.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Cost efficient at 1000 health, slot efficient at about 2000, continued to scale with more of a pure defensive stat you purchased. It's still very strong, but not quite so good.[/quote]

[quote=Babit]Meh it's just one item, not as big of a deal as you guys are acting like. If it was ever used without the OMGATMOGS mentality you'd all realize you can just buy it when you need armor ad and have 2.2k+ hp and you wont notice a difference at all.[/quote]