So, is Xin ban worthy now?

[quote=BluAnimal]He doesn't seem OP to me. If anything he seems up to speed with some of the current OP top laners.. (Irelia...) He needed this patch and I look forward to seeing him top more frequently (doubt it though). He's still an auto attack heavy champion, he just can knock-up more frequently and has better sustain with some armor pen. Maybe I'll play him intentionally against a tank to see how he does :3[/quote]

[quote=albableat][quote=Jpikachu1999] For what? Panda Teemo was a kind of a joke, if you couldn't tell by the smiley face. Riven has a shield and a bunch of mobility to poke Xin, not to mention CC. [b]CDR[/b] Olaf naturally gets health to maximize [[Reckless Swing]]'s damage, and a [[Frozen Heart]] is fairly core. Lowering Xin's AS cripples him pretty well in my opinion. [/quote] You said "stacking health". I referred to that.[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999]Oh, I see. Unless he uses it at the beggining though, it's 15% of current health. Plus, it's physical damage so building armor (which you would do naturally against Xin) ruins it's damage anyways.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Reread numbers, gotta say, he looks very interesting to me now.[/quote]

[quote=Babit]I've only tried him out in aram 1 time so far. I really liked the feel of him so I'm going to try him out a lot more. He definitely doesn't seem anywhere near OP to me, but he may be a pretty viable top lane now.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]If you need a damage dealer who goes in, and it's okay if he can't get back out (AKA you have a gap closing hard initiate team that can either set Xin up or follow up his engages), Xin is probably a perfect fit now. Seems completely viable, maybe even strong.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]yes he is viable. his laning is still highly questionable, possibly even worse because of the fact you have to level up your pointless W to scale sustain that used to be free.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I find speccing into the heal to be fine. If they made it so each attack of 3 talon strike gave a reduced amount of the heal (meaning passive every third strike like it is now, then active+3ts and the as buff) it would have more useability, and not feel as gimped. ) if you have a team to follow up, xin is solid.[/quote]

[quote=Nyoike]I've seen good Xin's and I've see horrible Xin's since the rework, I personally have not tried him yet, but I am hoping to. As far as I've see so far in my normal draft games, he's been banned just about every game. The one game he wasn't my team insta picked him for our jungler and it worked out very well. The most powerful counter I've seen so far for him was Jax.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=EvilDice] yes he is viable. his laning is still highly questionable, possibly even worse because of the fact you have to level up your pointless W to scale sustain that used to be free. [/quote] DOUBLE POST! I agree. I think he might be better as a jungler, or maybe as a counterpick to Riven and Renekton (Can't disengage, hard to out damage) but I'll have to test it. You wouldn't level his W, that's for sure. But his new ulti has some nice utility and he has a pop up and a slow, so he might be just fine in the jangles.[/quote]