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Teemo: AD, AP Caster or AP DPS?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Slaydis » October 1, 2012 2:42am | Report
Hi guys!

As i am trying to find a good build for Teemo, i noticed that some guided focus on ad teemo while others claim that AP teemo is the best.

I actully dont understand why people build teemo as an AD or an AP caster. In my opinion teemo should be build as an AP DPS.
If you take Riven for example: Her abilities are improved with AD dmg. So ppl usually build some AD. In Teemos case, all his abilites execpt the quick move are improved by AP. So y should sombody build AD on him? The difference between Teemo and an AP Caster is just that he needs some Attack Speed to get a higher DPS.

So my usual build is: 21/9 masteries (AP); Insight marks, AS seals, Force glyphs and Swiftness quints.

Items are: Sorc shoes;Malady (lowers enemies MR), Wits end (AS); Rabadons; Hextech gunblade (not sure about this items, still trying it out); rylais

I am pretty sure that some of you will not agree to this build. So plz explain me y u biuld an ad teemo?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by wRAthoFVuLK » October 1, 2012 4:47am | Report
You build AD on him because his kit is geared towards that of an AD offtank; the blind lets him duel other ADs; the poison adds to his attacks; but most importantly, his movement speed allows him to get to towers quickly and backdoor, which is why you get AD to be able to kill towers and push as quick as possible. Your ult also helps you backdoor and split push by giving you sight far in advance when the enemy is coming to get you, so you know how much time you have and it buys you some time because of the slow.

You build is expensive and just a random bit of everything that doesn't help you much. Malady is bad, Wit's gives you no AP or AD, just some AS, and you get a deathcap while hardly getting any more AP to work with it.

It's just a waste of money and doesn't work well. Try an AD offtank build, something like boots start, double dorans, phage, berzerk's, frozen mal, inf edge, phantom, GA. Maybe stick in another PD or a bloodthirster there and you are set.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Berzerk » October 1, 2012 4:55am | Report
Start off the game as AD bruiser, but if you start losing you lame transition to AP so you can still be useful to your team.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Crows foot » October 1, 2012 6:46am | Report
I rune for mpen and ap. Start game with around 20 ap and go boots+3. Max e first, after start I build phage for health and the slow. Then I build Malady and either sorcs boots or zerks. After malady I finish FM and then I go Rabadons.

After that situational. The FM makes me able to stick to enemies and totally peel them in fights, and give me health. Other than that I let as and ap do the job with the blind. After Rabadons I can often easily duel an ad carry.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Temzilla » October 1, 2012 7:10am | Report
Boots > kages > malady > abyssal > frozen mallet > DFG > GA has worked for me.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by throatslasher » October 1, 2012 8:11am | Report
Anyways, teemo is an on-hit-off-tank. If you build him AP, you can't teamfight. If you build him pure on-hit, you can't teamfight. If you build him pure tank, you can't teamfight. The only way to build teemo is thusly:
runes:
15ad
armor seals
mr/lvl glyphs

masteries:
21/9/0 (offnse, like adc)

skill order:
e,w,e,q,e,r,e,w,e,w,r,w,w,q,q,r,q,q


against AD
boots 3pots, wriggles, phage, zerk's, wit's end, frozen mallet, PD, GA

against AP
boots 3pots, dorans blade, dorans blade, wit's end, merc treads, phage, frozen mallet, zeal, BT, PD, GA

GG NO RE. this is the BEST WAY to play teemo. Just make sure you win your lane at level 1. either make them chug 3 hp potions before level 3, or just kill him with flash ignite aa's. gg
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Anyways, teemo is an on-hit-off-tank. If you build him AP, you can't teamfight. If you build him pure on-hit, you can't teamfight. If you build him pure tank, you can't teamfight. The only way to build teemo is thusly:
runes:
15ad
armor seals
mr/lvl glyphs

masteries:
21/9/0 (offnse, like adc)

skill order:
e,w,e,q,e,r,e,w,e,w,r,w,w,q,q,r,q,q


against AD
boots 3pots, wriggles, phage, zerk's, wit's end, frozen mallet, PD, GA

against AP
boots 3pots, dorans blade, dorans blade, wit's end, merc treads, phage, frozen mallet, zeal, BT, PD, GA

GG NO RE. this is the BEST WAY to play teemo. Just make sure you win your lane at level 1. either make them chug 3 hp potions before level 3, or just kill him with flash ignite aa's. gg


AP does more damage.

AP wins vs on-hit as soon as you get malady, even with on-hit building 100% against AP early game.

AP also has WAY more burst, and costs 2000 less gold.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Crows foot » October 1, 2012 11:59am | Report
I do combine ap build with FM for that lovely slow proc and kiting. Also enables me to peel in teamfights. Oh and post 6 I make it a habit to drop a shroom on them if they go toe to toe with me. If they want to go on trading I can kite them and if they run I chase them away with another 2-3 aa's and a q if it is off cd again.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by NicknameMy » October 1, 2012 12:58pm | Report
Elementz talked about Teemo in his competetive play tier list, he says he prefers him as full AP to control objectives with mushrooms and then splitpushing all the time. Probably one of the best champs for the "new meta", because with Teemo you can easily avoid teamfights. He also goes mid with him.

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I think this build should work really well:
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Health Potion
50

Health Potion
50

Health Potion
50

Ruby Crystal
400

Sorcerer's Shoes
1100

Catalyst of Aeons
1100

Deathfire Grasp
3100

Rod of Ages
2700

Needlessly Large Rod
1250

Rabadon's Deathcap
3800

Void Staff
2650

Sheen
1050

Lich Bane
3200


Rod of Ages because a Teemo needs some survivability and Rylai's Crystal Scepter doesn't apply a slow on Toxic Shot. Your burst combo is AA-Q-( Lich Bane)AA
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AP CASTER!
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