This is Riot being stupid and saying it's ok for you to get zero visible reward for winning games in order to keep you where the system thinks you should be. From Riot's League System FAQ:
It's idiotic imo to make it seem like your games are worthless and completely contradictory to their intentions behind making the league system in the first place but sadly, they make the rules.
If your MMR is close to your league ranking though, then I have no idea. Sometimes the system's buggy and doesn't update your ranking, but usually not for 3 games o_O
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I reached Divison 1 of my league, and I am not earning as many League Points as before. Why is this?
When you enter a ranked game, you are matched with teammates and opponents based on your matchmaking rating (what used to be called Elo). It is expected that your matchmaking rating is about equal to other players in your League. If for some reason your matchmaking rating is below what is expected in your League, you will see League Point gains come much more slowly as you approach your Division 1 Series. Because League placement is now permanent, we have designed the system to ensure that a player’s matchmaking rating is high enough to ensure that you can consistently play at the level of the next tier. As long as you continue to win more than you lose, your League Point gain will even out and you’ll reach the Promotion Series.
It is possible to earn 0 League Points if your MMR is too low to qualify for the next tier.
When you enter a ranked game, you are matched with teammates and opponents based on your matchmaking rating (what used to be called Elo). It is expected that your matchmaking rating is about equal to other players in your League. If for some reason your matchmaking rating is below what is expected in your League, you will see League Point gains come much more slowly as you approach your Division 1 Series. Because League placement is now permanent, we have designed the system to ensure that a player’s matchmaking rating is high enough to ensure that you can consistently play at the level of the next tier. As long as you continue to win more than you lose, your League Point gain will even out and you’ll reach the Promotion Series.
It is possible to earn 0 League Points if your MMR is too low to qualify for the next tier.
It's idiotic imo to make it seem like your games are worthless and completely contradictory to their intentions behind making the league system in the first place but sadly, they make the rules.
If your MMR is close to your league ranking though, then I have no idea. Sometimes the system's buggy and doesn't update your ranking, but usually not for 3 games o_O
I got +6, +3, +2, +1, +0, +0 LP for six consecutive wins in silver I before finally reaching my promos with a seventh win. As you probably know, LP clamping like this usually happens because of someone's MMR being low, however after winning some games in gold V my MMR was suddenly good enough to skip a division and enter gold III (which of course suggests my MMR was not below, but above average at this point).
What am I trying to say, you might wonder? The system's weird sometimes and I don't understand it, is my point :P Theoretically, though, the problem is that your MMR was simply too low and you just needed to win more to fix it first (I should note that it's hard to tell how reliable OP.GG is, too).
Anyway, just hang in there and keep winning, you'll get there (also, if you lose a game and drop to ~90-95 LP, don't worry because a win might still get you straight back into promos).
What am I trying to say, you might wonder? The system's weird sometimes and I don't understand it, is my point :P Theoretically, though, the problem is that your MMR was simply too low and you just needed to win more to fix it first (I should note that it's hard to tell how reliable OP.GG is, too).
Anyway, just hang in there and keep winning, you'll get there (also, if you lose a game and drop to ~90-95 LP, don't worry because a win might still get you straight back into promos).
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Could be similar to plat 1, where you're stuck on 99lp forever, until you lose one, and win again. I just recently found out why at diamond 1, i'm going up +2, but -5 a game, apparently my mmr is too high, and i won too many games. My friend getting similar to me, lost 15 in a row, and when he won next time, he was always going up +5 after, and then -2/-3 a loss. So yeh,...awesome rank system riot has atm.
As for your issue, try lose one, and win...another one of my friend was stuck in Plat 1 99lp for about 7 wins in a row. so you probably have the same.
Also OP.GG isn't that reliable, it's like 80% accurate.
As for your issue, try lose one, and win...another one of my friend was stuck in Plat 1 99lp for about 7 wins in a row. so you probably have the same.
Also OP.GG isn't that reliable, it's like 80% accurate.
I started clamping when I first got promoted from Plat2 to Plat1, and it confused me because the way the clamping happened wasn't systematic. It seemed completely random. My memory of it's fuzzy but it went something like: gaining single digit (+4-8) LP per win for a few games, about -15 per loss, costing me all the LP I gain, then randomly I get +15-20 LP for my wins out of nowhere O_O
Then when I reached the plateau of Plat1 around 90 LP the system went back to giving me miniscule amounts of LP per win, but the really weird thing is that I started losing tiny amounts of LP at the same time. Whu? The only assumption I could come to was that the system wants to stop you from going up or down when you reach the highest division of your tier. P1, G1, S1, etc. Essentially they want P1 to be a 'longer' division to go through than the others while still following the 100 LP system, since the jump to the next tier is a big one. I became convinced of this when I got to D5 then suddenly got ~20 LP for my wins and losses again.
This is all guesswork on my part but considering how cryptic and secretive Riot is about their technical details, I really can't think of any other explanation. It's annoying and makes climbing once you reach the top of your tier feel more frustrating than it actually is.
Then when I reached the plateau of Plat1 around 90 LP the system went back to giving me miniscule amounts of LP per win, but the really weird thing is that I started losing tiny amounts of LP at the same time. Whu? The only assumption I could come to was that the system wants to stop you from going up or down when you reach the highest division of your tier. P1, G1, S1, etc. Essentially they want P1 to be a 'longer' division to go through than the others while still following the 100 LP system, since the jump to the next tier is a big one. I became convinced of this when I got to D5 then suddenly got ~20 LP for my wins and losses again.
This is all guesswork on my part but considering how cryptic and secretive Riot is about their technical details, I really can't think of any other explanation. It's annoying and makes climbing once you reach the top of your tier feel more frustrating than it actually is.
^ It's also weird because small LP gains suggest a bad MMR while small LP losses suggest a good MMR. I remember dropping no more than 2 or 3 LP from two losses and one win before going on the six game clamping spree I mentioned earlier, leading to the question "if my MMR is so bad, why didn't I just drop more after losing two games and winning only one?".
I suspect that it's a way to make things fairer. They don't want you to progress too quickly yet at the same time, don't want you to be punished too severely for losses either, otherwise climbing becomes too unrealistic. That way, it's slower to climb but steadier.
Then there are cases where you are above where your MMR is supposed to be, so you just get crippling penalties for losses.
I dunno, the system doesn't make sense to me sometimes.
Then there are cases where you are above where your MMR is supposed to be, so you just get crippling penalties for losses.
I dunno, the system doesn't make sense to me sometimes.
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The whole system is bad, in comparison to the old system.
This system makes getting Diamond really easy, so approximately 2200 ELO in the old system.
Back in the old system, majority of players above the 2,000 mark were actually good.
Also the idea of placement games is bad, especially for soloQ. Since we can all gather soloQ is mainly luck of the draw as to what team you get.
They should just implement Quake lives elo tier system, or Halo 3's rank system.
On topic, good luck with your adventures Qersidon, hopefully you move up now..
This system makes getting Diamond really easy, so approximately 2200 ELO in the old system.
Back in the old system, majority of players above the 2,000 mark were actually good.
Also the idea of placement games is bad, especially for soloQ. Since we can all gather soloQ is mainly luck of the draw as to what team you get.
They should just implement Quake lives elo tier system, or Halo 3's rank system.
On topic, good luck with your adventures Qersidon, hopefully you move up now..
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