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I mean. Why? I am sick of getting troll voted and no comments
Why not make it comment to vote forever?

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Because some people might be afraid you'll trollvote them back.
And if people think it's bad and are just too lazy to explain it it's okay.
The first 20. votes are usually all +1.


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Because **** logic that's why.

Let me do a quick review of your lee-guide.(i don't main jungling so probably won't have too much good input, but i'll try)
  • switch 3 of your marks for desolation marks (or something like that) that makes faster jungling.. at least is used to be like this
    >not sure if it's still this way though.
  • Don't do desolation quints in the jungle... ever...
  • Vigor is a pretty meeh mastery especially when jungling, improved smite would give u a "free" health pot every 3rd smite, or give u something even more useful, just prefference though.
  • Ghost? naaah. ignite also pretty meeeh but i quess you can go for it if ya want.
  • Exhaust is good, but you don't mention why/when to take it
  • nice gif's <3
  • don't mention Q->R->Q for initiation (well you do, but only for killing purposes)
  • Well.. More often than not, especially in the picture shown, you don't want to use sonic wave before you're all up close and not used for initiating on the gankable lane
  • it is definately recommended to counterjungle without flash.. since the times where you're counterjungling with exhaust are the times where you're gonna try to kill the opponent
  • Jungle routes; you should always start at the smaller camps starting at 1:40 and then at 1:55 do the red/blue-buff

Summary:
Your layout is very nice, and the guide looks nice as a whole.
But your understanding of the jungle is sub-par at best, when you don't know anything, don't try to teach others.

I understand the persons who down-voted your guide, i won't downvote it since i like the look of it and you obviously know a thing or two about lee-sin.

Off-topic, Icecreamy i'm dissappoint that you reviewed the guide without pointing any of the above mentioned out..
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I wasn't really asking for a review here but thanks anyway. I have played over a 150 games with lee sin all in the jungle which is why I made this guide. I have tried all possible builds and jungle routes and the route I use is the safest and healthiest one. BUT there is another ruote that I use that I haven't listed.

If you dont use Q to initiate your opponent blinks out 95% of the time. Just saying. You say you dont main jungling. I jungle 90% of my games.

I listed a lot of extra runes and summoner spells because I was requested to. If you dont like ghost then dont take it. Simple. I watch jungle streams a lot and jungle a lot myself too. If you start jungling you may actually start to get what I talk about. Just sayin.

Oh and btw. I finally understand the wording problem with my statement don't counterjungle without flash. ^^. I just realized its "other" meaning reading your comment. Thanks :D

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Well i'm not maining jungling, but i used to before i played top.

Then wait till after they flash, cuz else they will just dodge your "q" with the flash, even more meaning to wait with throwing the Q.
This is the picture you have, right besides the spot where you say to initiate your "q"

Let's analyse the situation:
  • Cho'Gath is at 1/3 health so probably won't be able to assist the gank.
  • Sona has 500 health left, so you won't insta burst her down, it's gonna be a while for sure.
  • Renekton Is zoning Cho'Gath so i'm assuming he's almost full health.
  • Lee Sin has 300 health.

let me tell you what is gonna happen:
You "q" sona blinks it(because 95% of the time, enemy blinks away, right?) you just lost 70% of your burst.

Two scenarios may come from this:
1st one:
You try to walk in and kill her anyways. Renekton comes, Ignite-E-W-Q(renekton is prolly level 3 because he just got a kill on lux) - Sona power chord. You just fed the enemy renekton red buff, or got away with a slither of health, Cho'Gath can't help because he only has 2-300 health and would only result in a double kill.

2nd one:
you abandon the gank, missing "a lane suitable for ganking"(which i actually kind of disaggree with, since it might result in a double kill for the enemy. - quote from the guide.


If you had walked in, sona walks either towards tower(if she does this, you can go to her and E-Hit-Cripple-hit-hit-Q-hit-hit-Q dead.) hitting a Q is much easier when you're All up close than it is when you aren't.

if she walks towards renekton, i think you should abandon the gank, but even if you don't, Cho will be much more likely to help since you're closer to him and he might help a bit.
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lol can't believe you analysed that like that. It was only meant to show that over extended lanes are suitable for ganking. Lol anyways getting off topic. THIS WASNT ABOUT MY GUIDE. Every guide. Once your guide gets downboted for no stated reason you will see what I and a lot of other users feel. Its nit just me its everyone. It isn't a QQ thread ot was just a question as to why the system is as it is. :)

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Well sorry :p

I think it's to counter all the sheep-voting with troll votes.
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Shizukani wrote:

I mean. Why? I am sick of getting troll voted and no comments
Why not make it comment to vote forever?


Because it's the easiest solution.

Not the best, just the easiest.
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more votes = more accurate score

We want to encourage votes, and having comment to vote discourages downvotes. We did all C2V for a while and guides got really inflated scores. Having 20 C2V gives you a "starting chance" to get a score high enough to make the top 10 charts, but if we kept it on forever everybody's guides would have really high scores and not reflect the populace's opinions, which is the whole point of having voting.

Anyways we've had like 50 threads about the same thing. I suggest using the search function and seeing our previous responses to this question or browsing through the Support Forum. If you have a suggestion for an automated voting system that doesn't discourage voting while keeping votes in check then feel free to make a thread in the Support Forum, but I would make sure you search extensively for previous people's suggestions because we have talked about this A LOT.
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