Fighting Shen Solo top

[quote=Zeedr][quote=Chris1130] [quote=Zeedr] Garen is just a good counter before level 6, but then he got completely useless cause someway shen got more sustain than him. [/quote] Unless it's a extremely aggressive Shen or you are doing poorly, you shouldn't have problems with sustain as Garen. Just play passively for a short while, recover HP, then start trades again. At level 6, unless he already have tons of HP and armor, you can kill it with with a couple of Q,E and then R. [[Demacian Justice]] it's an excellent counter for Shen early on. [/quote] If the Shen is smart will throw Vorpal Blades to you, so you don't get your passive UP, you have two options, fight and being taunt + Vorpal, Ki Strike and W Combo or go back and be denied of gold. If the shen is good will have a Q on you 24/7.[/quote]

[quote=Kantelar]What about Jarvan IV? It's very fine on top. It's very useful before and after lvl 6.[/quote]