Jungle Olaf Help Please :(

[quote=Adonikam]@DEWO: Nice, how about runes and masteries aswell?[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]I like running my standard AD setup. M - ArP S - Dodge G - AS Q - ArP Masteries same as WW 20/0/10: [url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-0-1-0-4-4-0-0-3-2-3-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-0-2-0-0-0-0-0-0[/url] or if you want to be more bulky: [url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-0-1-0-0-4-0-0-3-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-1-0-4-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-0-2-0-0-0-0-0-0[/url][/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura]I writing my Olaf guide right now. I belive dodge is good only on tanks or dodge characters like Jax, Sivir. I prefer attack speed seals on jungling Olaf and mana regen per level on laning Olaf.[/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura][quote=DEWO] I like running my standard AD setup. M - ArP S - Dodge G - AS Q - ArP Masteries same as WW 20/0/10: [url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-0-1-0-4-4-0-0-3-2-3-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-0-2-0-0-0-0-0-0[/url] or if you want to be more bulky: [url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-0-1-0-0-4-0-0-3-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-1-0-4-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-0-2-0-0-0-0-0-0[/url] [/quote] You should put a point into Havoc. It will really help you much much more then increased buff duration. Like this... [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-0-1-0-4-4-0-0-3-2-3-0-0-1&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0]21/0/9[/url][/quote]

[quote=DEWO]ehhh... another victim of Havoc. No it would not. 5% out of 117AD = 5.85AD Sorry but 15% longer buff duration is totaly worth more than <6 AD on lvl 18.[/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura]Heh, very interesting. I was looking different on that whole time. Yea, in that case buff duration is much better.[/quote]

[quote=capi][quote=DEWO] Olaf is diferent from WW. He is VERY potent jungler, but he tends to have problems on lvls 1-5 in jungle. Go with [[Cloth Armor]] and 5 [[Healing Potion]] ALWAYS start with blue buff (at least i do :P) Pick your [[Vicious Strikes]] as spell and use it on cd. Ignore small ones and imidietly start whacking big golem. As soon as his health is at 420HP, smite him imidietly, than finish off small ones. Dont forget to drink your 1st hp pot after reciving 1st damage. You will get lvl 2. take [[Undertow]] as 2nd spell. Go to wolf camp, position yourself directly against the big one and throw your axe in middle damaging all the creeps and kill the wolves. Check your health status, if its <50% drink your pot and move to wraiths. Position yourself again correctly to damage all wraiths with your [[Undertow]], and kill the blue one prio than rest. Your HP should be quite low, drink another pot and move to golems (skip red one for now) Again position and throw axe to damage both golems. Drink pot. Check your health status, if it is quite ok you can engage the red buff lizard (again ignoring the small ones at start and smiting in good moment. Go to base and pick up Razors. TEST THIS ROUTE BEFORE GOING ON NORMAL GAME!!! Your skill odrer should be W-Q-W-E-W-R. Itemisation: Cloth armor + 5x hp pot Razors Boots (depends on what you want) Latern Phage -> Mallet Stark's Fevor Hope i helped [/quote] Thanks for the jungling route (I've been using this one), items, etc... I have been doing the same items route etc and finally last night (after 5-10 practice games lol), I managed to get it down. The only way I was able to get it though, honestly, was going 1/13/10. Everytime I tried to go Offense I would die, so until I get higher level, I'll stick to Def/Util masteries. As for the runes, I dont have AS glyphs :( or Dodge seals (I have AS, HP/lvl and armor seals). Is this something I should invest in? I've been using the HP/lvl seals as I've been playing some shen as well (and I have the ArP, Armor and CDR for jungling Warwick- ArP, AS (seals), and Mana Regen (glyph) for laning MF). @Ace, can't wait to see your guide, should come be a good read. Thanks for the help everyone. Finally played a normal game with him, and my jungle was never touched :), plus I was able to continously steal their buffs, but we had no tank and they expected me to always initiate. So... we lost :([/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=DEWO] ehhh... another victim of Havoc. No it would not. 5% out of 117AD = 5.85AD Sorry but 15% longer buff duration is totaly worth more than <6 AD on lvl 18. [/quote] So, so true. More people need to realize this.[/quote]