To Brand or not to Brand

[quote=scornfall]Hello! Im a newbee player that would like to ask one question. I started playing LOL around a year ago, but stoped it almost the same week (had no time to play games). Now im back. Soon I will gather 4800 IP. I would like to unlock BRAND. Around a year ago everyone was saying that, he is a very powerfull AP carry, but now i can't see him in games anymore. I have Annie, Veigar and now wanted to have Brand. Is it a fun/good character to play? I dont give a s*** about ratings. Just want to play few randoms, and have fun. But fun in most cases means a) kills b) being helpfull for the team. So i would like to hear some advices. I want to play good mage that will give me fun. Is brand a good pick? Thanks in advance![/quote]

[quote=malac]HI ! I think for fun brand is a very good pick and can carry the match too. My favorite is ziggs he is very fun to play and trolling with his q. If you wand a fun AD champ (just if you want) i recommend Lee sin/Wukong they re very strongs and easy to play and the most important is dat they re FUN . Sry for my english i am from Hungary.[/quote]

[quote=boythinks]i bought brand recently... i am a fairly new player also.... he is one of those chapms that get countered pretty easily but ...can have crazy damage... i like playing him. and one of the funnest things with him is having people flash away at low health then dying to his blaze anyway...hahahaha on that note i find JAX and Kassadin really fun to play also[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd][[brand]] was really popular a while ago, and nothing has really changed since then. He is just out of the FTM rotation (that's "flavor of the month"). Basically, what makes or breaks a good brand is whether or not you can land skillshots. If you can't land them, you're going to be an awful [[brand]] and have no fun at all. If you can, you're going to have a great time. [[Annie]] and [[veigar]] aren't really that skillshot dependent since [[annie]] has 1) a cone that is easy as hell to land as long as you are close enough, 2) a targeted ability, 3) a self shield, and 4) an instant cast huge AOE, and then [[veigar]] has 2 targeted abilities, a gigantic AOE stun, and a skillshot that the AOE stun makes really easy to land. Brand has nothing that easy. tl;dr He's fun if you can land skillshots, gets pooped on if you can't. Hope this helps![/quote]

[quote=scornfall]Ok, hanks for answears. I dont want to create new topic so im gona ask here. As u can see im picking mosty mages. If i understand corectly this are chars that are designed for solo mid. What should i do if someone is "reserving" mid lane before the match ? Whats the role of Ryze, Veigar , Brand if they are not in the mid? How can i farm and be usefull when i have to share mobs/last hits with someone else ?[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]You don't. If you can't call mid/can't get mid because someone higher up than you picks it first, don't play a mage unless its [[swain]], [[vladimir]], or [[mordekaiser]] top (or something similar, I might be missing a couple). There are some rare instances where a normal AP carry can support (such as [[lux]] and [[morgana]]), but they have to give ALL the farm and as many kills as possible to the ADC and subsist on assists and GP10 items ([[philosopher's stone]] and [[kage's lucky pick]]), which both turn in to something useful for an ap caster support later on after you decide to build them into something else and lose the GP10 aspect of the item. Having the mastery and runes for increased gold gain is almost a necessity for supports, whether they are "traditional" ([[alistar]], [[taric]], [[sona]]) or the AP carries I mentioned earlier. [[tl;dr]] Most AP carries should only ever go mid by themselves, a few can go top, a few with hard CC can support, and you should branch out and get lots of champs that go lots of places so you are a balanced well rounded player and not stuck at only one thing. Hope this helps![/quote]

[quote=FireLord]brand is like the best champion ever and it's my favorite and i play with him all the time. seriosly, buy it, you'll love him[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=The Overmyynd] [[brand]] was really popular a while ago, and nothing has really changed since then. He is just out of the FTM rotation (that's "flavor of the month"). Basically, what makes or breaks a good brand is whether or not you can land skillshots. If you can't land them, you're going to be an awful [[brand]] and have no fun at all. If you can, you're going to have a great time. [[Annie]] and [[veigar]] aren't really that skillshot dependent since [[annie]] has 1) a cone that is easy as hell to land as long as you are close enough, 2) a targeted ability, 3) a self shield, and 4) an instant cast huge AOE, and then [[veigar]] has 2 targeted abilities, a gigantic AOE stun, and a skillshot that the AOE stun makes really easy to land. Brand has nothing that easy. tl;dr He's fun if you can land skillshots, gets pooped on if you can't. Hope this helps! [/quote] He has not just 'fallen out of FoTM status'. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about, again. Brand is a mid range champion, with no escape besides [[flash]], a skillshot stun, an unreliable [[Pillar of Flame]], and a gimmicky ultimate. [SPOILER] V1.0.0.151: Pyroclasm can no longer bounce more than 5 times. V1.0.0.144: Pyroclasm: Missile Speed increased to 1000 from 800. Missile Speed no longer increases when hitting ablaze targets. If Pyroclasm strikes an ablaze target, the next bounce will now prioritize champions. V1.0.0.125: Conflagration: range reduced to 625 from 675. Pillar of Flame: base damage reduced to 75/120/165/210/255 from 80/125/170/215/260. V1.0.0.123: Fixed a bug where Pyroclasm would sometimes disappear if Brand died. V1.0.0.121: Fixed a bug where Pyroclasm could instant-kill enemies under some circumstances. V1.0.0.116: Pyroclasm: For consistency with other chain missiles, it is no longer consumed by spell shields. Fixed a bug where it could sometimes fizzle if there was an enemy stealthed nearby. V1.0.0.115: Added. (Original Stats) Sear: Brand launches a ball of fire forward that deals magic damage. If the target is ablaze, the target will be stunned for 2 seconds. Pillar of Flame: After a short delay, Brand creates a pillar of flame at a target area, dealing magic damage to enemy units with the area. Units that are ablaze take an additional 25% damage. Conflagration: Brand conjures a powerful blast at his target, dealing magic damage to them. If the target is ablaze, the conflagration spreads to nearby enemies. Pyroclasm (Ultimate): Brand unleashes a devastating torrent of fire, dealing damage each time it bounces. If a target is ablaze, Pyroclasm's missile speed increases. Blaze (Innate): Brand's spells light his targets ablaze, dealing 2% of their maximum Health in magic damage per second for 4 seconds. [/SPOILER] In the spoiler above I've included his patch history, he's been nerfed consistently since his release. He's a burst mage who's burst is pretty subpar and he doesn't have enough sustained dps to contribute to fight like [[Cassiopeia]], he's outclassed by pretty much every mid. Until league players want a low mobility, low burst/dps, mid range mage with no reliable form of damage or escape, I don't ever see him wanting to be played. [quote=firelord] brand is like the best champion ever and it's my favorite and i play with him all the time. seriosly, buy it, you'll love him [/quote] probably one of the worst champions at the moment. One of the weakest in his role and no laning potential anywhere else[/quote]

[quote=FireLord]worst? if you know how to play him well you'll completly destroy your enemies, specially in dominion[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Nobody plays Dominion. I actually like [[Brand]] and I agree he's supbar. Even [[Viktor]] is better, and I think he's bad too despite him being my favorite champion.[/quote]