The problem with all of this is that the US is a rather large country, physically. Making any blanket statements about it is a bad idea because of this. In some places what you say about people being accepted is true, but in other places many people experience discrimination on a daily basis simply because they are "not normal".
Okay, okay, I admit. I was and still am deeply convinced of the fact that every single person residing in the United States is a short-minded, sexist, racist, whatever-else-you-can-discriminate-ist pig and I look down on every single one of them, and because I was confronted by someone with a different opinion, I got scared to stand up for and/or felt embarrassed for my own view and quickly tried to brush it off as a joke. I humbly apologize and will make sure not to inconvenience you again.
In all seriousness, I firmly believe you just said something pretty dumb and I'm quite astonished that you believe, for example, racism isn't a prevalent (no, not everyone, no, not everywhere, but, compared to other countries and/or the standard "no racism", it's quite a bit) thing in the US. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd tell me it's just as much of a hoax as climate change is.
I don't see how you think it's appropriate to include such an unnecessary amount of ad hominem in your arguments (it's very annoying, as you may experience while reading this post), and I don't see why I, or anyone else, should be bothered to discuss with someone who does. So I'm done here.
For your understanding: the first paragraph is comical.
In all seriousness, I firmly believe you just said something pretty dumb and I'm quite astonished that you believe, for example, racism isn't a prevalent (no, not everyone, no, not everywhere, but, compared to other countries and/or the standard "no racism", it's quite a bit) thing in the US. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd tell me it's just as much of a hoax as climate change is.
I don't see how you think it's appropriate to include such an unnecessary amount of ad hominem in your arguments (it's very annoying, as you may experience while reading this post), and I don't see why I, or anyone else, should be bothered to discuss with someone who does. So I'm done here.
For your understanding: the first paragraph is comical.
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I don't know where you're from, but you're just another typical racist European that assumes that Americans are more racist.
I seriously believe that you are an idiot that likes to believe in your own superiority. There are parts in the US that are backwards, and there are parts that are more progressive. However, this constant European attitude is one of racism. Constantly parroting that the US is racist or stupid or anything similar.
The standard isn't "no racism". The standard is a **** ton of racism and overall, the US is less racist than many European countries.
I seriously believe that you are an idiot that likes to believe in your own superiority. There are parts in the US that are backwards, and there are parts that are more progressive. However, this constant European attitude is one of racism. Constantly parroting that the US is racist or stupid or anything similar.
The standard isn't "no racism". The standard is a **** ton of racism and overall, the US is less racist than many European countries.

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FatelBlade wrote:
The standard isn't "no racism". The standard is a **** ton of racism and overall, the US is less racist than many European countries.
Latest Legend wrote:
In all seriousness, I firmly believe you just said something pretty dumb and I'm quite astonished that you believe, for example, racism isn't a prevalent thing in the US.
This does mean that in America racism is a bigger problem even when the racist to non-racist ratio would be the same as in Europe, simply because of the size of the country.
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I think that, not only from those standpoints, nationalism has purpose, but it also, as stated, gives people a reason to actually stick with their group (i.e. their countries) and attempt to improve them, rather than keep moving about and around, until eventually everything sucks. It inspires and promotes collaboration, and that's pretty good.
In that sense I definitely agree with you. If someone has a healthy amount of nationalism and willpower would do their best to develop their country, that should definitely be applauded. They are taking a road not many want to take after all, doing their best to make their country a better place to live in. Being within the healthy amount of nationalism just seems to be a very hard thing to accomplish.



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FatelBlade wrote:
People always ****ting on Americans and what not based on these negative stories, without considering both sides of the coin. I have experienced the most diverse case of people that are all accepted.
Entering a victim role now?
And yeah, people laugh at America right now because you elected one of the greatest idiots to ever enter politics as your president, and you elected him because of his openly celebrated "patriotism" *cough* racism and xenophobia *cough*.
If we ever need more proof that nationalism is inherently a ****ty thing, you Americans are delivering daily. As are Hungary, Turkey, France and many more.
And by the way, now that you figured out that people are diverse, where is the reason for nationalism if people from your country are not all great and worth supporting?
Someone that stalks little children is abnormal and should be discriminated against. Someone that enjoys sexual things to random people on the sidewalk is abnormal and should be discriminated against. Someone that wants to show everyone sexual or graphic images is abnormal and should be discriminated against. Someone that wants to walk around nude and/or flash random people is abnormal and should be discriminated against.
@ DreamingInRed Do you have a peepee in your throat? Seem to be coughing quite a bit there.
Don't pretend for one second that the mocking and laughing started because Donald Trump was elected president. It happened with Obama, it happened with Bush, and it happened with Clinton.
Stating that he won because of blatant racism just shows that you barely read headlines and make informed opinions about it. You don't see me coming, learning about whatever ****hole you're from, and ****talking your political situation and culture.
I don't get your last point about nationalism and diversity.
@ DreamingInRed Do you have a peepee in your throat? Seem to be coughing quite a bit there.
Don't pretend for one second that the mocking and laughing started because Donald Trump was elected president. It happened with Obama, it happened with Bush, and it happened with Clinton.
Stating that he won because of blatant racism just shows that you barely read headlines and make informed opinions about it. You don't see me coming, learning about whatever ****hole you're from, and ****talking your political situation and culture.
I don't get your last point about nationalism and diversity.

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I agree, but that doesn't mean nationalism can't have its usefulness; I wouldn't write it off completely.
That highlighted part is exactly what we're talking about; you are attempting to use nationalism/patriotism here to your advantage, by implying that people here are addressing all Americans, rather than just talking about specific situations or individuals who may be American; there's a difference.
There's various groups in the United States who believe so strongly that their country is the best there ever was that they fail to see the obvious flaws in it, even go so far as to state that anything that contradicts their world-view is simply non-existent (see: “You are fake news!”). We are not talking about all Americans; there's a bunch who believe Fox News is there to spread lies, and there's a group who watches Fox News every day, taking every word for granted, that should be a clear indication that there's sub-groups within the major group that encompasses all Americans.
"That said, I think Americans are pretty poor nationalists."
I was referring to this. If you don't think this refers to all of them then its fine and I;ll stop wasting my time with you.