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Official Mobafire PC thread

Creator: Vynertje August 3, 2015 11:59am
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I tried the socket in the back and the problem remains. There's quiet but clearly recognizeable "white noise" when listening to music for example. It's almost like the headset is trying to boost some background noises louder which otherwise would be left unnoticed.

3.5mm jack's electromagnet noises are gone, I think I didn't plug the headset properly but now that it's correctly plugged in, I hear the "white noise".

I checked some threads and it seems few others have same problem


I checked this thread and so far possible solutions seem to be not to use the ****le or to plug it into an usb 2 instead of an usb 3 port.
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Joxuu wrote:
I tried the socket in the back and the problem remains. There's quiet but clearly recognizeable "white noise" when listening to music for example. It's almost like the headset is trying to boost some background noises louder which otherwise would be left unnoticed.

Well, if you didn't hear it with your phone then it probably has something to do with the fact that it uses 4 pins instead of 3 for a combined audio/mic jack. Most PC motherboards lack support for this. And it seems that the USB soundcard that comes with it might be of questionable quality.
Ya shoulda went with version 1 like I told ya :P
You should probably just return it and get a version 1 instead. You should have sufficient justification in complaints about the noise.
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My keyboard(cherry mx-board 3.0) has a loose connection. I already tried a different cable, so it has to be something with the keyboard itself, which pretty much means that I'll have to get a new one. I have my doubts about getting another mx-board 3.0 because my problem seems to be fairly common.

This means that I'd like some advice. I need a mechanical keyboard with a german(qwertz) layout. For switches, I would prefer mx reds. I tried browns and blacks and didn't like them and a have yet to try blues(I didnd't really like the tactile feel on browns so I doubt I will like them). I would prefer having a numpad. Additional hotkeys would be nice but are not necessary. I wanna spend around 100€(spending more isn't too much of a problem if you give me a good reason).


I personally greatly enjoy my Corsair K70 (non-RGB, brown). Corsair stuff is always on the expensive side but this keyboard hasn't disappointed me at all. I really dig their media hotkeys and no-nonsense look.

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Well, if you didn't hear it with your phone then it probably has something to do with the fact that it uses 4 pins instead of 3 for a combined audio/mic jack. Most PC motherboards lack support for this. And it seems that the USB soundcard that comes with it might be of questionable quality.
Ya shoulda went with version 1 like I told ya :P
You should probably just return it and get a version 1 instead. You should have sufficient justification in complaints about the noise.


Perhaps not specifically an answer to the problem, but it could be that getting a cheap (20€) soundcard also helps greatly, + it greatly increases audio quality over onboard options.
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im using corsair k70 non rgb red switches. I've been using this for a little over two years and its been working pretty well.
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Vynertje wrote:
Perhaps not specifically an answer to the problem, but it could be that getting a cheap (20€) soundcard also helps greatly, + it greatly increases audio quality over onboard options

Do you know how common 4-pin support is on these soundcards?
And 'greatly increases audio quality' is probably an overstatement.

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Nope and to be honest, I haven't ever heard of the 4-pin support issue before. I just suggested it because it has solved white noise/emi issues for me before.

Either way, compared to most entry-level motherboards it really is a great increase. I've used an Asus Xonar DG (20-25€) and Essence STX (150€) so far and both offered a substantial upgrade over onboard audio on a 100€ motherboard.
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I've done some research.

Apparently I should have gotten a CloudII firmware/driver when I plugged in the headset but I haven't gotten anything. Many have said firmware version 5 has fixed the noise. Can I just go to their website and download the firmware and it should be activated or what?

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According to the thread I linked earlier, the update is still in beta. You can apperently get it by contacting their support or by downloading it from a link on page 3 of the thread(I didn't check it or anything, there were no complaints in the thread so I guess it is save. I'd still try getting it from the support just to be complatly sure though). It seems like you can also fix the issue by not using the usb soundcard(I think you have to use a splitter cable instead). You obviously don't get any benefits from it if you go that route.
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Vynertje wrote:
Either way, compared to most entry-level motherboards it really is a great increase. I've used an Asus Xonar DG (20-25€) and Essence STX (150€) so far and both offered a substantial upgrade over onboard audio on a 100€ motherboard.

Erm.. FYI: many PCI sound cards actually reduce sound quality, even compared to internal soundcards.

Why?
1. Because they commonly have higher output impedance.
2. Because they convert to analogue audio inside the PC case. The moment you convert the audio to analogue is the moment that signal becomes sensitive to interference.
The only real benefit of a PCI soundcard over internal soundcards is that they have more powerful amps. This is useful with high-impedance headphones, like those you have (Sennheiser 650, I believe). Such headphones require much more power than most, and internal soundcards often have trouble driving them properly. With the increased power the "signal" part of signal/noise increases, making noise less problematic, even if the noise level is higher than that of the internal soundcard.
But his headphones aren't 300Ω. They are 32Ω, which is standard. So he would likely get worse audio from getting a PCI soundcard.

I'm not an expert on this, so I may be wrong, but:
I believe most PCI soundcards use digital volume control (I know most integrated ones do). This could potentially be another thing that boosts noise (or rather: noise remains the same, while signal decreases at low volume, effectively meaning higher noise). With external soundcards you can control the volume with a proper knob (potentiometer), gaining lower noise at lower volumes.


USB is the way to go. That way you avoid both the high output-impedance and the interference problems inside of a PC case.
I've been eyeing the O2 headphone amp for a while now myself. Requires no drivers and is pure, clean audio fidelity, without any kind of coloring. There is sooo much snake-oil in the audio business. An objective approach (measurements) to audio is necessary for the best sound.
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Joxuu wrote:
Apparently I should have gotten a CloudII firmware/driver when I plugged in the headset but I haven't gotten anything. Many have said firmware version 5 has fixed the noise. Can I just go to their website and download the firmware and it should be activated or what?

Oh. Well, yeah. Do that and see if it works.

Also, don't use the "7.1 surround sound" outside of a select few games. It's mostly just distortion unless a game has real proper support for it. Which isn't too common.
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