Neither of the Duckies fulfill my requirement of not having unnecessary casing. Again: look at the pictures of the two I linked for an idea of what I mean by that.
I think you need a lesson in human anatomy.
First look at this picture:
http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-back-right-hand-high-five-symbol-52299259.jpg
Note how the ring-finger is almost as long as the index/middle-finger (actual length varies, mine is exactly as long as my index-finger, but most peoples' are a few millimeters shorter than their index-fingers).
Now look at this image of Naos 7000:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5181Lrh2L3L._SY355_.jpg
Note how the area where the ring-finger rests is significantly shorter than the area where your index/middle-fingers rest.
So, using basic logic and a basic understanding of human anatomy we can conclude that if not most people, at the very least people with large hands will have trouble with their ring-finger scraping the mousepad while using Naos.
This is of course assuming palm-grip, since that's the grip I'm using.
Thalia Kael wrote:
Also im pretty sure that you having a bad experience with the mionix naos doesn't warrant [your complaints]
First look at this picture:
http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-back-right-hand-high-five-symbol-52299259.jpg
Note how the ring-finger is almost as long as the index/middle-finger (actual length varies, mine is exactly as long as my index-finger, but most peoples' are a few millimeters shorter than their index-fingers).
Now look at this image of Naos 7000:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5181Lrh2L3L._SY355_.jpg
Note how the area where the ring-finger rests is significantly shorter than the area where your index/middle-fingers rest.
So, using basic logic and a basic understanding of human anatomy we can conclude that if not most people, at the very least people with large hands will have trouble with their ring-finger scraping the mousepad while using Naos.
This is of course assuming palm-grip, since that's the grip I'm using.
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I don't know whether to cry or laugh.. or both.
I don't know whether to cry or laugh.. or both.
I have fairly large hands and ive been using the naos 8200 for over 2 years without any comfort issue, maybe you should actually try the mouse before bashing it instead of pasting a picture of a hand on top of it (or remember that not everyone holds their mouse the exact way you do which is apparantly very special because you have an issue with almost every mouse)
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there should be something for you in the /r/mechanicalkeyboards buyer's guide.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/buying_guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/buying_guide
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mastrer1000 wrote:
there should be something for you in the /r/mechanicalkeyboards buyer's guide.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/buying_guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/buying_guide
Oh damn. They have a section for "tenkeyless" keyboards (numpads are 16/17 keys tho lel).
That's incredibly useful. Thanks for the link.
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Thalia Kael wrote:
I have fairly large hands and ive been using the naos 8200 for over 2 years without any comfort issue, maybe you should actually try the mouse before bashing it instead of pasting a picture of a hand on top of it (or remember that not everyone holds their mouse the exact way you do which is apparantly very special because you have an issue with almost every mouse)
Of course. I've already stated my grip-style and what I use my mouse for. And for those usage scenarios the Naos is garbage.
Stop whining just because I'm criticizing something you like, you big baby :P
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/nVFK8K - what i have so far..
hi friends i need help building a pc.
budget is around 1k~.
I want to build a computer using the 1070. I'm not sure about the motherboard because I heard they really aren't that important so I'm willing to downgrade to fit my budget.
Any changes suggestions wanted.
Suggestions for monitors/keyboards/mousepads appreciated too. <3
hi friends i need help building a pc.
budget is around 1k~.
I want to build a computer using the 1070. I'm not sure about the motherboard because I heard they really aren't that important so I'm willing to downgrade to fit my budget.
Any changes suggestions wanted.
Suggestions for monitors/keyboards/mousepads appreciated too. <3
I added an ssd and the cheapest 1070: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/47cPnn
this build costs 1255$ though, so I brought it down to 1037: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PbZf8
I changed the cooler, motherboard, ram and psu, and you can save a lot more if you don't overclock and get a non-k cpu.
Aside from having less potential for overclocking, it shouldn't really make any difference when gaming.
for a monitor, you want to look for a 1440p ips monitor.
this build costs 1255$ though, so I brought it down to 1037: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PbZf8
I changed the cooler, motherboard, ram and psu, and you can save a lot more if you don't overclock and get a non-k cpu.
Aside from having less potential for overclocking, it shouldn't really make any difference when gaming.
for a monitor, you want to look for a 1440p ips monitor.
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mastrer1000 wrote:
I added an ssd and the cheapest 1070: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/47cPnn
this build costs 1255$ though, so I brought it down to 1037: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PbZf8
I changed the cooler, motherboard, ram and psu, and you can save a lot more if you don't overclock and get a non-k cpu.
Aside from having less potential for overclocking, it shouldn't really make any difference when gaming.
for a monitor, you want to look for a 1440p ips monitor.
this build costs 1255$ though, so I brought it down to 1037: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PbZf8
I changed the cooler, motherboard, ram and psu, and you can save a lot more if you don't overclock and get a non-k cpu.
Aside from having less potential for overclocking, it shouldn't really make any difference when gaming.
for a monitor, you want to look for a 1440p ips monitor.
thanks!
I have a few questions, why did you choose that motherboard over others ones?
Does brand matter when it comes to SSDs? I see people pick up Samsung in most cases.
When you said you found the cheapest 1070, compared to other 1070s what is this one lacking?
Can you recommend any 1440p ips monitors (affordable), that I should look into?
I picked the motherboard because it is cheap, has the z170 chipset and all the basic featuers
for SSDs, you should be looking at read/write speeds and the price. I picked this one because it is cheap and had a decent rating on pcpartpicker(I didn't really have much time so you should prohably do some proper research)
The 1070 I picked has what looks like a rebranded stock design(the cooler seems to be the same, the design has been changed slightly). The different versions of the 1070 have different fan designs(that means different sound levels and slightly different cooling performance) and sometimes different stock overclocks(you can pretty much ignore those, doing it yourself is pretty easy)
I don't really know how the monitor market currently looks like, but you are prohably looking at something along the lines of 200+$. the Acer G257HU looks pretty good for the price, but I don't really know if there is anything cheaper that has the same features.
Since you also asked about keyboard advice, you definitly want to get a mechanical one if you can afford it. I linked to a buying guide on /r/mechanicalkeyboards in this thread a couple of days ago.
for SSDs, you should be looking at read/write speeds and the price. I picked this one because it is cheap and had a decent rating on pcpartpicker(I didn't really have much time so you should prohably do some proper research)
The 1070 I picked has what looks like a rebranded stock design(the cooler seems to be the same, the design has been changed slightly). The different versions of the 1070 have different fan designs(that means different sound levels and slightly different cooling performance) and sometimes different stock overclocks(you can pretty much ignore those, doing it yourself is pretty easy)
I don't really know how the monitor market currently looks like, but you are prohably looking at something along the lines of 200+$. the Acer G257HU looks pretty good for the price, but I don't really know if there is anything cheaper that has the same features.
Since you also asked about keyboard advice, you definitly want to get a mechanical one if you can afford it. I linked to a buying guide on /r/mechanicalkeyboards in this thread a couple of days ago.
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Also im pretty sure that you having a bad experience with the mionix naos doesn't warrant this "Mionix Naos 7000 - OH GOD NO; STAY AWAY. This grip is ****ing awful. Want your ring-finger to be scraping the mousepad? By all means; buy it. I haven't tried this exact model, but I've tried Qpad 5K, which is a mouse with an extremely similar grip.", especially since you haven't actually tried it and it's extremely popular mainly for its comfort