AD Singed? Hybrid Singed?

[quote=Kirluu]Just now, I thought of playing Singed like I've done quite a bit before. And I remembered back to some of the games I've had with him, and then I started thinking: "Phantom Dancer would be OP lolol". That thought then led me on towards thinking AD Singed. Consider AD Singed coming at you with insane speed, flinging you back and then just DPS'ing you down. o_o The main reason I came upon this thought is because I remembered from earlier Singed games of mine, I've often found myself Autohitting a decent amount of times to damage the enemies further, and that's when the idea came to me. [b]Build Example(AD Singed):[/b] [[Boots of Speed]] + Pots [[Boots of Swiftness]]/[[Mercury's Threads]] Forthcoming items are not necessarily in order of purchase: [[Phantom Dancer]] (x2 ?) [[Frozen Mallet]](Slow ez le gud - I first thought Rylai's, but then figured Frozen was the better option for AD Singed) [[Banshee's Veil]]/[[Force of Nature]] [[Frozen Heart]]/[[Randuin's Omen]] [[Guardian Angel]] Now umm. That actually didn't turn out quite as planned, seing as how I started out thinking AD, but then figured that to be able to catch the enemies you'd need to be able to soak up some damage as well as being able to take the damage from the enemies you catch. [b]Build Example(Hybrid Singed):[/b] [[Boots of Speed]] + Pots [[Boots of Swiftness]]/[[Mercury's Threads]] [[Rod of Ages]] [[Phantom Dancer]] [[Frozen Mallet]](Epic slow) [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]](Double Slow <3) [[Banshee's Veil]]/[[Force of Nature]] [i]Thoughts??[/i] Kirluu~ [b]Note:[/b] I couldn't find out if this should be in Build Discussion or Theory Crafting, seeing as it's a bit of both.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i don't really think ad works on singed much at all. building more tanky and ap works extremely well.[/quote]

[quote=Keels]Why would AD ever work... at all...[/quote]

[quote=SinDelta]I would throw in a triforce in there. It gives mana, walkspeed, crit chance ect.. Walk up to someone fling then proc sheen would give you some decent burst and if i recall Singed has one of the highest base AD in the game so it is possible just not ideal but hey this is theorycrafting so anything is possible.[/quote]

[quote=Kirluu]I tried AD Singed in a bot game, and I have to say that I didn't like it at all. AP is simply the better option o_o The only good thing about what I built was that I had near 500 move speed as standard xD But that was without building tanky as well. But yeah. It's just not a good idea, sadly. :3 The theory seemed decent, but in action it kinda sucked.[/quote]

[quote=UltimateHavok][quote=Kirluu] I tried AD Singed in a bot game, and I have to say that I didn't like it at all. AP is simply the better option o_o The only good thing about what I built was that I had near 500 move speed as standard xD But that was without building tanky as well. But yeah. It's just not a good idea, sadly. :3 The theory seemed decent, but in action it kinda sucked. [/quote] Well, your build for an AD singed kinda sucked, tbh. How many AD champs do you see built with one or two damage items and the rest survival? If you really want to make an AD singed, build shit like BT, IE, PD, ect. Not just a Phantom Dancer or two. If you wanted to even try that, he needs to do great damage by items alone because none of his abilities scale with AD and would have to be used as utility. The only thing that would help fighting is his ult, and I don't think that even boosts AD anymore or does it?[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]no it doesnt, it boosts magic resist and cc resist instead of ad/as[/quote]

[quote=gwadzila]Hextech is very nice on Singed. Manamune is OK, not really that good. I would never AD Singed, but Hybrid is decent IMO.[/quote]

[quote=UltimateHavok][quote=caucheka] no it doesnt, it boosts magic resist and cc resist instead of ad/as [/quote] Yea I thought so. Well, basically he could be built AD with some good utility in his abilities, but there are much better AD carries and he would play the role of a tank or AP tank much better. Personally, I like building him AP and tanky, dishing out a lot of damage, chasing people down and throwin em back to my team, and kiting people through my smoke. He's just like Cho'gath, he can be built AD and semi work while using his abilities for utility, but there are much better chocies for AD carry and he plays a much better role as AP off-tank.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]singed needs to be tanky and YOU SHOULD NEVER BUY SWIFTBOOTS ON HIM tabi are always better o0 you will be faster than anyone anyways with ult masteries runes + fon so why waste extra dodge/ccred o0 just go traditional roa fon rylais build and you will be fine... most other builds are pretty bad expecially ad singed since none of his abilities scale in any way with ad/as or anything like that o0^^ greez sam[/quote]