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Countering Warwick and Teemo as Garen

Creator: RodX April 18, 2012 4:41pm
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Jul 1st, 2011
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So basically, my main champion is Garen, i have over 500 games with him and i still face problems against some champions, but WW and teemo just pretty much rape me every match. Early and mid game are easy for me against them but if late game they build something like this:

Teemo with: Madred's Bloodrazor, Frozen Mallet and Wit's End, it just destroys me...

Warwick with: Spirit Visage and Madred's Bloodrazor is enough to win a 1x1 against me.

My core build with Garen is:
Ninja Tabi or Mercury Treads, Ghostblade and Frozen Mallet, the other 3 are situational.

So how can i counter this?
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If you have no problems early game, just shut them down hard enough so their late game isn't as menacing.

I'd buy a Force of Nature or Maw of Malmortius to counter their magic damage, but Teemo can just kite you all day, which isn't nice to Garen.

Or you can just not face them late game :P Garen falls off a bit there.
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The best way to describe garen is as a rapidly aging old man.

lvls 1-9 = Garen in his prime.

lvls 10-14 = Getting close to retiring/last battle

lvls 15-18 = An old man who aimlessly wondered on to the Fields of Justice on his way to Dollar
General. No one pays any mind to him, no do they bother attacking him. He just sits
there, swinging his cane around in circles while the team giggles at his attempts
to find out why he's wearing armor that doesn't fit anymore.

To put it simply: Garen excells in the early game, falls off hard in the late game.

As for fighting Teemo and Warwick, what TehAsian said works pretty well. Hard to counter shredders as Garen, since they can still decimate you silenced or not. Good luck though :D
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Nearly any champ counters Garen atm, don't play him, play eve instead.
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You have no damage...

Also, Teemo is a pretty hard counter to Garen as is any champ who can kite you for days.

Also, Nickname is just a tad butthurt because apparently everyone counters Garen. This is 110% ******** and he can still win lanes if he's ball-out aggressive.

But seriously, if they have Teemo, you're not going to win the lane.
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Main problem with any champ which main dmg source is of aoe nature..
You have less and less a chance to win against single-target champs the later it gets.
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its not often that i get to lane against a teemo cause i always solo top with garen, but when i meet him i have a pretty easy early game, after getting brutalizer, from levels 6-10 i destroy teemo in 1 combo. when i DON'T lane against him my other teammates will probably lose their lanes against him and he will rape me late game.

about WW, during the laning phase its very rare for me to die for him, just have to place a couple of wards on the right spots, but then again, late game he shuts me down.

and about that statement that nearly all champions counter garen, i can only say you are ridiculously wrong, i learned to play him effectively late game, he can destroy ap carries if played right.
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Garen is a beast in the early game, which means you should really do as much as you can at the early period of the game. Dominate your lane, rape other lanes, and so on. If you manage to dominate early game and then still not able to ride out the late game, you just have to admit your teammates aren't as good and the lose is inevitable.

I honestly don't think you can really do much to a Teemo(or other late-game beasts) with the item you listed for him and you really shouldn't think of 1v1 in the late game because it's a 5v5, you don't need to win the Teemo alone, you just need to do your job well in a team fight and let your teammates take care of business. Like if Teemo is forced to cut you down and your teammate has already killed 3 of your opponents, then it's a job well done. If you are able to destroy opponent's AP, you did good. I would really try to focus more on 1v1 in the early-mid game as Garen and think more on the team side for late game.
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teemo just ouright owns you

as for garing falling off lategame, its true but his lategame is not as bad as people say it is

you should always try to have enaugh damage to kill the ad/apcarry in 1 combo with ignite
build tanky from there
i like to go yoomus or infinity for damage and thats pretty much enaugh to kill the squishies

if you force them to focus you to protect the carries you have done your job!

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