Deathcap as first item is better.

[quote=JMastiff]2dorans>sorc>rabadon on my Gragas ratios does the trick. Mind he has an escape ability and cool passive/w sustain combo so I kinda care less for hp at earlier stages of the game. Depends on champ if you ask me.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Pranzatelli] [quote]You rush Deathcap where you may have gone ROA or something like it. Now you do a lot more damage, but have to recall because your OOM every 2 minutes. I think sustain is really important early-mid game for an AP carry - being able to stay in lane and farm as much as possible is what I like. If you start getting outplayed once you've rushed the deathcap, it could be a seriously bad situation. Getting pushed back and denied will be your worst enemy, and they'll be all over you knowing you have no sustain.[/quote] Only if you already have a few Doran's Rings (regen, durability) and flat AP runes or some item like RoA; otherwise, straight-up AP isn't going to win your lane/fight. [/quote] My Mordekaiser page/book gives me 4+24 ap, and 1 per level. I get a WotA before my Death cap, so immediately after the deathcap, i have 350 ap @ level 18. That's pretty effective in my book, because of Mordekaiser's high sustain, no mana, and high durability because of passive.[/quote]

[quote=AncientNecro][quote=JMastiff] Depends on champ if you ask me. [/quote] Spot on, sir. Rushing that Deathcap on [[Zilean]] is extremely fun, rewarding, and rage enticing! Definitely depends on the champ. Also, I was more than happy to give you your first [color=#ff0080]+Rep[/color][/quote]

[quote=LordAerthos]As most have said, I think it's very dependent. Some champs can manage rushing Deathcap right away, others feel very awkward due to OOM or health. Obviously how you are doing in lane is a huge factor, and enemy team comp too.[/quote]

[quote=Maserato]I believe that if you start boots and 3 pots you need some durability , at least 2 dorans before rushing the deathcap. I see people rush deathcap as their first item besides boots and I laugh as they die in every tank situTion. If there was a tank in front of you all early game fine but realistically 2 dorans or a catalyst minimum.[/quote]

[quote=MiamiHurricane]I'd say sustain > damage in the early game, so a super fast deathcap isn't ideal. As Ahri I generally get my deathcap fairly late. I go dorans -> hextech revolver -> boots -> tear of the goddess (or other mana regen item) -> Rylai's scepter -> Deathcap (or finish off WoTA first). I need health regen to stay in lane for as long as possible, mana regen so I don't run OOM too often (only a real problem early game), health so I don't just die, and some utility before I can focus on damage items.[/quote]