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DFG Nerfs

Creator: Phil15 October 25, 2012 2:07pm
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Xeronn wrote:

Good guy Morello.


He wanted it removed.

So yeah, good guy morello for leaving it in the game at all.
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BarbJ wrote:

Just saying it might become more popular.


Interesting though, I'm unsure though. Neither DFG nor Grail are bought for the CDR; also CDR is quite overrated. However if some mages won't build DFG anymore, Grail might be a good filler.
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CDR overrated, says the guy who builds Glacial Shroud on Vlad :p

Need that armor and CDR bro :D
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Touché.
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The point where DFG got core on every mage was the point were it was too good.
It was simply too op and a Must build item, regardless of your and your enemy team, now it's back to it's original place a Counterpick and for Burstcasters.

Same thing with warmoggs nerf, wriggles nerf, HoG nerf(not this one, but the one before), doran's nerf and randuin's nerf(more nerfs to this item inc. or at least i think so.)
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I think i'm starting to get Morello's way of thinking. Polse kind of hit the dot; Many AP champions had this item in their core build, and it made them uncomfortably bursty IMO.
I think morello nerfed DFG to the heavens in order to enforce some sort of soft-nerf to all casters, and a more noticable nerf to burst casters like Veigar and LeBlanc. Just an opinion, though.
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utopus wrote:

I think morello nerfed DFG to the heavens in order to enforce some sort of soft-nerf to all casters, and a more noticable nerf to burst casters like Veigar and LeBlanc. Just an opinion, though.


Totally agree with you, but the problem is: Veigar has the worst early game I've ever seen on a champion and rushing DFG used to help him a lot with the CDR (and Kage's Lucky Pick for a while). Ok, you can get Fiendish Codex into an Athene's Unholy Grail but, in my opinion, Veigar doesn't need that much mana, especially mid-late game. Masteries, runes and 1 doran's solve his mana problem early-mid.

So you lose a CDR + burst item that was more than a core for Veigar, and get a CDR + Mana Regen one that is more expensive and doesn't add too much to him.

I'll keep playing with him just because I really like his mechanics, but now he was nerfed to the point that he is basically a stun-poke that dies in 2 hits.
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Nerfing squishy assasins like LB and veigar who dont really have a place in the meta and are picked seldom was really a smart idea. You can delete them from the game completely
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arnt veigar and leblanc like situational pick champions anyways?
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DillButt64 wrote:

arnt veigar and leblanc like situational pick champions anyways?


Veigar lost popularity for some reason (mobility meta, for sure) but he is still pretty scary, trust me.
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