ADC is not obsolete. If anything the "holy trinity" of ADCs need to be overthrown. Not saying nerf ADCs just provide a stronger variety...If anything AP mids are falling out here and there. Their job is to kill the ADC, but when an ADC is fed, I doubt an AP can actually deal the damage (through life steal) necessary to get the kill. Even if they do, the ADC typically has GA at some point, and what do you know the AP is all out of CDs and is now watching their respawn timer.
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AD carries are needed, and they are there for a reason. The get stronger and stronger as the game progresses, they start out weaker at the beginning, but given them enough time, they will be the ones "carrying" the team to victory if played well. Evidently, if the game ends after 20-25 minutes, ADs won't have enough time to reach their full potential. So a good way for a team without a carry to win is to counter all the enemy heroes and especially to make the carry's life miserable (and win the game as fast as possible or lose).
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I've recently tried this with my friend since I was arguing with him over skype. I was arguing that Garen could be a great support and a great ad carry. Not believing me, we did a normal game he picked blitzcrank I picked garen and we went bot. Level 1 to around 5, we did rather well. Non stop harass and pressure to force the enemy to be scared. Blitz kept on running in and out of bushes, so a grab could come from anywhere. Meanwhile, I farmed up with my q and last hitted.
Then after when we got ganked, I silenced thei jungler and made a run for it. The next fews minutes were painful and we got beat hard. Then I decided to recall, got a dorans, mobiloty boots and a bf sword and completely wrecked the lane. Garen was just way to tanky for graves to handle. I shruged off his autoattacks and kept on farming. Garen's passive allows him to stay in lane nonstop and farm up nonstop. Finished the game 10-1-something.
It worked with blitz and we only tried it once. Dunno, could work. Fed Garen is a force to be reckoned with and he doesn't need a team to protect him. He is tanky enough to endure punishment for a while. He is melee though, which is a huge drawback since he has to rush in headfirst with his q-e-r combo. He does melt the enemies support and carry very easily. It was the first game I got exhausted none stop as Garen.
Further testing will follow to see if it wasn't just a one timer non-sense type of deal.
(btw support Garen works like a charm)
Then after when we got ganked, I silenced thei jungler and made a run for it. The next fews minutes were painful and we got beat hard. Then I decided to recall, got a dorans, mobiloty boots and a bf sword and completely wrecked the lane. Garen was just way to tanky for graves to handle. I shruged off his autoattacks and kept on farming. Garen's passive allows him to stay in lane nonstop and farm up nonstop. Finished the game 10-1-something.
It worked with blitz and we only tried it once. Dunno, could work. Fed Garen is a force to be reckoned with and he doesn't need a team to protect him. He is tanky enough to endure punishment for a while. He is melee though, which is a huge drawback since he has to rush in headfirst with his q-e-r combo. He does melt the enemies support and carry very easily. It was the first game I got exhausted none stop as Garen.
Further testing will follow to see if it wasn't just a one timer non-sense type of deal.
(btw support Garen works like a charm)
Thanks to Amazing Monkey for the sig. Just like his name, he's amazing
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Oh and also, tryndamere and taric actually works. Pre 6 farming is hell, but once you ahve you ulti up, you mop up the lane like a champ. Taric sends a stun spin in, 3 shot the enemy carry. Most likely not very viable since you'll need a jungler to babysit until tryn is level 6.
Thanks to Amazing Monkey for the sig. Just like his name, he's amazing
as far as importance in laning phase, definitely bot>mid>top. this is pretty simple. ad carries are the most important role because they do the most damage. the faster you get that damage, the faster you win.
to say they are becoming obsolete is just a complete misunderstanding of the meta
to say they are becoming obsolete is just a complete misunderstanding of the meta
Tbh, side step better. Olaf and Irelia shouldn't be too much for a problem for people who have great micro. Only times you should get screwed is flash snare from Maokai and hard auto lock on CC. AD carries are near invincible if micro'ed properly with a PD.
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I wouldn't classify any melee champion as a potential AD carry (other than Nid/Jayce who have both types of ranges). An AD carry does a lot more than just dish out physical damage, they can kite, poke and shred tanks from a distance. Melee champions simply don't have that option, so they usually become peelers or assassins if they're build offensively.
Tryndamere, Master Yi, and Fiora would like to have a word with you.
They are those rarities called Melee ADCs, and they aren't worth time to put in lane because late game they get exhausted (by someone) and then kited and then killed by the opposing ranged ADC. Unless all you want to do is split push all damn day. That's about all they're good for.