karma.. possible ap tank?

[quote=caucheka]ok so i was looking at karma's recommendeds and i saw will of the ancients. thinking about how that spellvamp would work nicely with q, and how qs heal is more powerful the more health owned, i got to thinking. items in no particular order boots (ninja or merc treads, probably the latter) zhonyas hourglass crystal scepter deathcap spirit visage abyssal scepter which gives her some nice ap (526.5 plus her passive), which makes her shield absorb about 700 damage, plus her heal on q which is 105 + 15% health, which is 511, with a 20% increase from spirit visage is 613 health. 108 armor(or 138 with ninja tabi), 107 mr(or 132 with mercs), and having 2708 health with a 700 damage shield and a 613 heal, not counting any bonus stats from runes/masteries/her passive. edit: fucking title is deceptive. the more i think about this the more i think its just a off-tank/survivability build. on that note should i drop spirit visage in favor of an early tear and later archangels for more ap?[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Yeah, she lack reliable CC to be Tank, but viable build :)[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]where does it state that tanks have to have cc?[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]I've personally categorized her as an AP off tank/support. She's in a better position than, lets say Morde, as she brings a lot more utility to the team in team fights. But this definitely looks like one of the more viable builds. I'd personally like to see someone try building her with around 2 "tank" items and then stacking AP. I think it would work out rather well. She does technically have soft CC with her [[Spirit Bond]].[/quote]

[quote=nand]I play her as support DD personally, staying in the back and using mantra shield on people to deal damage (as well as making them faster). I sometimes save my second mantra charge for a heal as well, but I find a second mantra shield to be much better if you can wait for the CD.[/quote]

[quote=SatansFate]Spirit Visage doesn't increase her heal enough to be very viable. For 400 more gold you get more added to your heal with [[Needlessly Large Rod]], which can then be built into [[Rabadon's Deathcap]].[/quote]

[quote=SatansFate][quote=Zeprido] I've personally categorized her as an AP off tank/support. She's in a better position than, lets say Morde, as she brings a lot more utility to the team in team fights. But this definitely looks like one of the more viable builds. I'd personally like to see someone try building her with around 2 "tank" items and then stacking AP. I think it would work out rather well. She does technically have soft CC with her [[Spirit Bond]]. [/quote] [url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=10-113-42-106-81-114-76-34[/url] oops, sorry. I'm used to automerge forums >.<[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i already got a dethcap on my list. and with the spirit visage i have max cdr, a little bit of health and a little mr. if you wanna sell it later thats fine but its really effective for such a cheap item. its also great if you have some spellvamp[/quote]

[quote=hypershatter]its 15% missing health, not total health. there is a huge difference[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]yeah i know i herped and typed the wrong thing.[/quote]