Lets make an Ascension tier list

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][[Soraka]] are [[Lulu]] are probably upper A tier, [[Karma]] is probably low S tier. [[Karma]] gives insane mobility to herself and her entire team, not to mention being able to poke most people off a relic to take it herself. Also, an ascended [[Karma]] can burst an entire team with RQ and just walk away. [[Lulu]] is really strong as well: she has great mobility for capturing relics, can duel with most people for relics, and becomes nearly impossible to kill when ascended because of her ultimate and shield. [[Soraka]] makes killing anyone nearly impossible, which makes for pointless stalemate teamfights. She's honestly worse than [[Sona]] or [[Nami]] because she has much stronger heals and a silence with a decent range that can be used to interrupt enemies trying to capture relics for virtually no mana. [[Nami]] and [[Sona]] are also good (probably low A tier). I'd honestly be more worried about a [[Nami]] than a [[Sona]], given that [[Nami]] can AoE stun enemies trying to capture relics right away. As a general statement, support champions are going to largely be good because they often have high bases on their stats to compensate for a lack of gold to buy items. So they're generally still effective even if they only die a few times. champions I wasn't thrilled with: [[Orianna]] gives mobility, but she herself has very low mobility. This makes it harder to be effective, even though she can completely screw up a team that groups while trying to kill the [[Xerath]] with her ultimate. [[Kayle]] wasn't bad, but she required some wind-up to get there and that was an issue. [spoiler=me playing Nami]this pretty much sums up my opinion to an extent [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-c73y38Lg&list=UUjU8phn-wrXqg7cTWj0nJlw][/spoiler][/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I can offer my thoughts on the champions I personally played. [[Viktor]]; felt alright as any similar mage would. Strong when ascended, but easily gimped by focus. Trap is good for denying enemies from stopping your allies capture of relic. C tier. [[Warwick]]: Felt insanely powerful as most enemies are running around at lower health values and can't heal. His ult is pro for locking targets down, and he's excessively hard to kill when ascended. A-S tier? [[braum]]: Sucked. Since enemies typically come from any and all directions rather than one, [[Braum]] is less equipped than you'd think to defend allies in this map. C-F tier.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]Played 4 champs: Nami is pretty good for defending an ascended person if youre looking for the achievment. Also her ult can stop xerath fights from literally anywhere so that's a thing. Lissandra is quite alright, she can easily catch and lockdown an ascended champ long enough for her team to follow. Also great for picks cause her tp is like half the map LOL Zyra is great early on. Send her alone to grab the relic on your side and she can defend easilly, her plants interrupt from a stupid range so she can continuously poke the enemy. Also, a surprise 3stacked bush KILLS really really fast She gets useless later on in terms of damage and stuff but she can still be pretty good in comps that aim for the perfect achievement cause she can just stall 4ever and sac herself to disengage while her allies are getting relics across the map Karthus is poop. I got to ult twice the entire game... His damage is great and all but nobody stands in his face and he gets caught super easy if ascended so the fact that he can murder xerath doesn't exactly shine through[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][[Soraka]] are [[Lulu]] are probably upper A tier, [[Karma]] is probably low S tier. [[Karma]] gives insane mobility to herself and her entire team, not to mention being able to poke most people off a relic to take it herself. Also, an ascended [[Karma]] can burst an entire team with RQ and just walk away. [/quote] adding Soraka, Nami and lulu to A tier I just played a Karma round and yes I agree she is easily high tier if played right adding her to low S tier for right now now I'm going to go do some play testing with Kayle and orianna first before I place them :) [quote=OTGBionicArm] [[Viktor]]; felt alright as any similar mage would. Strong when ascended, but easily gimped by focus. Trap is good for denying enemies from stopping your allies capture of relic. C tier. [[Warwick]]: Felt insanely powerful as most enemies are running around at lower health values and can't heal. His ult is pro for locking targets down, and he's excessively hard to kill when ascended. A-S tier? [[braum]]: Sucked. Since enemies typically come from any and all directions rather than one, [[Braum]] is less equipped than you'd think to defend allies in this map. C-F tier.[/quote] Adding all to tier list where you suggested Warick upper A tier for now and Braum as much as it hurts me to do it I'm placing my favorite champion in F tier for right now.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]AD Malzahr is really strong on this map. Not only he can kill the Ascendet so fast, that enemies might not even have a chance to react and with infinite mana, well, yeah.^^[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][[katarina]] is completely broken, I don't know why she hasn't been mentioned yet. People are walking resets half the time, plenty of places to catch people from. Pretty sure she's a solid A tier, perhaps even S tier. AP [[shaco]] is also pretty strong, even against the lightbringer/hextech thing. There's just WAAAY too many brushes for him to play about, which also allow pretty cunning ult opportunities. Not amazing ascended, but can still be useful for baiting into JitB AD [[tristana]] is pretty decent, probably B tier. Also, her ult is relatively buggy, allowing her to shoot people over the thick walls, which is a lot more than she is supposed to push. [[Cassiopeia]] is a nightmare if she gets an early Rilay, her W is IMPOSSIBLE to cross unless you got a blink/dash. Top B or low A. [[zilean]] is too slow for this unless you go full utility/tank-ish. C or D. [[alistar]] is also really strong due to his retarded ult and inbuilt sustain.B+ or A- [[Ahri]] isn't sufficiently effective due to Ult CD. C[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]I think [[ezreal]] deserves better than F rating. He can also really hold himself if he ascends with his epic kiting.[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=FalseoGod][[katarina]] is completely broken, I don't know why she hasn't been mentioned yet. People are walking resets half the time, plenty of places to catch people from. Pretty sure she's a solid A tier, perhaps even S tier. AP [[shaco]] is also pretty strong, even against the lightbringer/hextech thing. There's just WAAAY too many brushes for him to play about, which also allow pretty cunning ult opportunities. Not amazing ascended, but can still be useful for baiting into JitB AD [[tristana]] is pretty decent, probably B tier. Also, her ult is relatively buggy, allowing her to shoot people over the thick walls, which is a lot more than she is supposed to push. [[Cassiopeia]] is a nightmare if she gets an early Rilay, her W is IMPOSSIBLE to cross unless you got a blink/dash. Top B or low A. [[zilean]] is too slow for this unless you go full utility/tank-ish. C or D. [[alistar]] is also really strong due to his retarded ult and inbuilt sustain.B+ or A- [[Ahri]] isn't sufficiently effective due to Ult CD. C[/quote] Cool I will start placing these soon [quote=Latest Legend]I think [[ezreal]] deserves better than F rating. He can also really hold himself if he ascends with his epic kiting.[/quote] I will bump up ez later today :) I just put all the Marksmen at F tier more for a placeholder then anything else [quote=NicknameMy]AD Malzahr is really strong on this map. Not only he can kill the Ascendet so fast, that enemies might not even have a chance to react and with infinite mana, well, yeah.^^[/quote] not sure if being serious or trolling?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Did you even bother to read the top rated guide on mobafire from diamond 1?[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]Did you read the pros and cons from said guide? To me it doesn't look like AD Malzahar would do very well in Ascension after reading this. Except from a fast Xerath clear, he'll be starved from mana soon, and he can't fight without having his voidlings up, so with all the assassins he'll have a hard time. It also reads he needs CC from team, which I guess is hard to find in this mode. There's a reason for him being played in the jungle only.[/quote]