Lichbane

[quote=Alahric][quote="B-Wong"] Yes but that's why you have other teammates to take down towers, Ryze isn't exactly the best backdoorer in the game. That slot could easily be replaced with a Zhonya's which would be more damage towards your other skills which would probably help a lot more rather than taking down a tower. Ace>Towers imo. [/quote]You know... you got a point, instead of Lichbane why not just buy Zhonya's Ring? Same cost, more AP, and a defense mechanism. But I still say that it has the potential to enables a fed caster to win the game, like Karthus for example. However that's only if he already have a full item build, therefore it's a scenario that most of us just won't come by.[/quote]

[quote=dak]well then b-wong I would have to ask you to look at my build for ryze cause if I remove lichbane I am not sure what I would replace it with. He already gets his cool downs very quick it gives him a small speed boost and I already get a major ap buff when the combination of arch angle staff and zonyas is used. When I attack my ap will literally sky rocket I am deal way to much damage. I do see the benefit in not having lichbane I just gotta figure out what I would replace it with here is a link to my ryze build http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/ryze-the-magic-hitman-2939[/quote]

[quote=Alahric]and here is a link to my ryze build [url]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/ryze-the-glass-cannon-88[/url] Everyone should link their Ryze build! C'mon, I know you got one![/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Lichbane is really good on casters like Nidalee(lol ap nid) or TF who have a smaller combo and AA a lot.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]It can work on [[Soraka]] since [[starcall]] has such a short CD, but there are usually better choices unless you really want to push.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Holy necros man...[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I noticed that after I posted my own response...but decided deleting the post wasn't worth it.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=dak] Actually it is quite usful on ryze since he has no real means of taking out towers fast with out it with it he becomes a character that can do everything but support and tank [/quote] Ryze = Mana Lichbane = AP Duff's head = hurt (Edit, just now see this was a hard necro, which helps a bit to explain things.)[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Yeah, the times, where you go AP-[[ryze]] with dat AP on [[Desperate Power]], [[lich bane]] was usefull.^^ But still, medicore.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I did trinity tank Ryze once...it was funny.[/quote]