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Nocturne vs. Fiora

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July 12, 2012 11:34am
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by big000 » July 12, 2012 11:34am | Report
Hello,

i'm kinda noob here, but i'm asking for an opinion.

I'm good with WarWick and Wukong. I already have their runes and now i want to buy another champ.

The runes from wukong are good for fiora and for nocturne, besides the quint, but it doesn't matter.

What matters is that i have been junglling with WW and i liked it. So i searched for a good jungler and i found nocturne. but i like a good meelee champ too like wukong and WW that give tons of damage and then i choose fiora too...

So, i'm here to ask what champ is better for either lane or jungle.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by iownedya » July 12, 2012 12:28pm | Report
Udyr AND LEE SINGA
Those two are best in lane AND jungle. If you want versatile champions, choose them.
If you want just jungle, Shyvana and Dr. Mundo are the fastest.
The best top are currently Udyr and Riven. Maybe Pantheon, but he is hard to master.
Lee Sin is a fast jungler and has a lot of sustain, so he won't need to go b as much.
Nocturne is a pretty fast jungler and good ganker, but he needs lvl 6 to get past wards.
Fiora is a decent jungler and has very little sustainability, so she is better top. She does hve a lot of damage, but long cooldowns.
Warwick is a decent jungler with great sustain, but his ganks usually rely on low health champions or lvl 6.
Wukong CAN jungle. He is decent, but with little sustain, he is bad. Wukong is usually an agressive top.
Warwick can top. He is great at top and has massive sustain. He can cs very well and move quickly.

Teamfights:
Nocturne is OK at team fights. He does not have much AoE, but he is great for catching the squishy AD carries.
Fiora is GREAT at teamfights. She can catch squishies, survive, and kill a lot of people with Blade Waltz.
Udyr is OK at teamfights. He stuns many people, disrupts people, and is a meat shield for the team.
Lee Sin is GOOD at teamfights. He can ruin an AD heavy team and disrupt or kill the carry(s) with his ultimate.
Shyvana is OK at teamfights. She can leap to enemy carries and shut them down. She has relatively long cooldowns and good damage.
Dr. Mundo is OK at teamfights. He has a permaslow and massive movement/sustain. He is the tank of your team.
Riven is GOOD at teamfights. She has disruption spells and great damage. She has decent coolsdowns.
Warwick is OK at teamfights. He ults in to kill the carry, gives the team a buff, but he doesn't do much if his ult is interrupted.
Wukong is GREAT at teamfights. His ult disrupts entire teams. He can make enemies blow their spells on a decoy. He has good damage.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by SkullzX » July 12, 2012 12:35pm | Report
Wanna know how you know if someone owns an apple product? THEY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT!

TROLOLOLOL so true though! Nice list though...also noct would be GOOD in team fights YOU CANT SEE **** NOW=HOW I FOCUS!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by big000 » July 12, 2012 12:53pm | Report
yes, i'm totally a top laner and lately trying to jungle (allways with WW, and i'm not that bad :D) but nice list over there, i'll go to think a bit now.. ty
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by PsiGuard » July 12, 2012 1:53pm | Report
Fiora is a situational top laner that can do well in the right matchup. She's quite easily countered though.

Nocturne is currently one of the strongest junglers in the game.

Fiora pretty much sucks at jungling and Nocturne isn't a great top laner. They shouldn't be competing for the same role.

Honestly, you should probably just figure out if you want a jungler or a top laner, then pick the one that fits. Nocturne is overall a stronger pick though because he's less situational. I'd go for him, personally.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » July 12, 2012 3:25pm | Report
SkullzX wrote:

Wanna know how you know if someone owns an apple product? THEY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT!


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If you like to bring damage to the game, you can go Nocturne. However, sometimes the team needs junglers who can tank lategame, so don't rule out Nautilus, Maokai, Amumu and Malphite
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Valkenhyn » July 12, 2012 4:03pm | Report
to add on to what FalseoGod said, Nunu has become another notable tanky jungle and Skarner (a personal favorite of mine) is an extremely balance jungler
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by big000 » July 12, 2012 7:11pm | Report
i tested udyr already and i have to play more with it, i got death many times but lots of assists too... maybe the combo's not working in team fights... i have to practice more :) but i think for now, i'll just buy AS and AD runes.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Senac » July 20, 2012 12:20am | Report
I'm playing jungle Udyr with AS reds, Armor yellows, MR/lvl blues and MS quints. That's what works for me. Udyr really needs to get into the lane asap to get the stun. Then you can proceed to destroy everything.

For lane Udyr I'd go AD reds and AD quints. Because Tiger is badass.
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