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Phantom Dancer vs. Jarvan's ultimate

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Satella » April 9, 2013 10:01am | Report
Does a Phantom Dancer let you walk through Cataclysm? Someone told me it's possible, but I cannot test it right now and Google is failing me. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate the response greatly.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pelikins » April 9, 2013 10:46am | Report
No it does not... Nothing ignores cataclysm. It is treated as terrain just like anything else.

Sometimes, if you have very high MS or in a animation that causes your champion to move quickly cataclysm will "miss." Effectively, it will try to generate terrain in the same space you are occupying at the time because you moved farther than anticipated during the cast time. It's a flip of the coin whether you are glitched inside the ring or out.

It's a bug that really needs to be fixed.

Since Phantom Dancers add move-speed it increases the likelihood that this glitch will happen. But it has nothing to do with the ignores unit collision tech on the item.

I've seen people claim the same thing about lightning rush, move quick, and lots of other MS steroids. It's all the same deal.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » April 9, 2013 12:53pm | Report
^ Several abilities that can't pass through terrain can go through Jarvan ult, for example Tumble, Broken Wings, Valor.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DarkPercy » April 9, 2013 1:11pm | Report
Luther3000 wrote:

^ Several abilities that can't pass through terrain can go through Jarvan ult, for example Tumble, Broken Wings, Valor.

those abilities can make you jump over very small cliffs if I remember right. Well, not Valor but the two others I think yes
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pheyniex » April 9, 2013 4:54pm | Report
i know Arctic Assault currently breaks Cataclysm's wall.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DillButt64 » April 9, 2013 8:18pm | Report
i think anivias wall breaks jarvens wall too, same with trundles if i remember correctly
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pelikins » April 10, 2013 4:41am | Report
I've never seen anything "break" J4's cataclysm, I know you can use pillar to pop people out of cataclysm.

And yeah, I guess I misspoke about "nothing" ignoring. I meant no MS enhances, small teleports that normally are stopped by terrain can pass through it such as tumble.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by BusDriver210 » April 10, 2013 1:40pm | Report
Pheyniex wrote:

i know Arctic Assault currently breaks Cataclysm's wall.


Confirmed. It also breaks Anivia's wall.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by The Overmyynd » April 10, 2013 7:20pm | Report
If you position it right Vault will go over it too, I believe. Fun side note, if you use perfect timing it can also be used to avoid Urchin Strike, since fizz has to dash THROUGH an enemy champ, and vault bounces off and away before it can hit.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by utopus » April 10, 2013 8:02pm | Report
avoiding urchin strike sounds even harder than trying to do a flash fling
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